JapanDave
Just wanted to ask one last question before I order my full set of Seaton speakers. For a 2000 cubic foot room with 3 catalysts and two sparks (for the time being, will go 4 sparks eventually) would I be better off getting a terraform XL or will the submersive do the job. The room is sealed with 8"-10" solid concrete walls and celling, the floor is a 30" slab carpeted.

Thanks for the guys.

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Mark_Seaton
JapanDave wrote:
Just wanted to ask one last question before I order my full set of Seaton speakers. For a 2000 cubic foot room with 3 catalysts and two sparks (for the time being, will go 4 sparks eventually) would I be better off getting a terraform XL or will the submersive do the job. The room is sealed with 8"-10" solid concrete walls and celling, the floor is a 30" slab carpeted.

Thanks for the guys.



For a room of 2000 cu.ft. I would rather see a pair of SubMersives in the room than a single Terraform XL.  There will be plenty of low end capability with a SubMersive, and the second location can be of great help in small rooms, especially a solid room like you describe.

There's also the reality that a Terraform XL is huge in any room, let alone a 2000 cu.ft. room.
Mark Seaton
Seaton Sound, Inc.
sales@seatonsound.net
773-290-8436
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JapanDave
Thanks Mark, I am not the most clued in guy to how speakers work so your info is much appreciated.
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JapanDave
Mark, how is that shipping quote comming along? I know you are very busy and I appologise if I seem to be rushing you.

Dave 

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JapanDave
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#1, Where is the quote button Mark ? #2 I typed up a name that i think fits you. 

#3, I cannot see the use for 2 Submersives in a 2000 cu.ft. space, especially a sealed room, though perhaps you said 2 since he mentioned a Terraform XL for that room so obviously he wants big time bass?

Though I suppose any room, regardless of the size can benefit from dual subwoofers.

I was thinking that the terraform XL delivers that really low base, well lower than the submersive and that is why I was thinking of getting it.  But I can see why two subs would be better than one.
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#3, I cannot see the use for 2 Submersives in a 2000 cu.ft. space, especially a sealed room, though perhaps you said 2 since he mentioned a Terraform XL for that room so obviously he wants big time bass?

The use I would recommend, especially in such a bunker of a room, is to use placement to even out room modes and nodes. Placement can have an incredible effect on bass, sometimes to the level that moving a sub a few feet will radically alter the available boom at the listening position, like it has in one of my old rooms. 2 subs mean flexibility, and that's always good.
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Mark_Seaton
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For a room of 2000 cu.ft. I would rather see a pair of SubMersives in the room than a single Terraform XL.  There will be plenty of low end capability with a SubMersive, and the second location can be of great help in small rooms, especially a solid room like you describe.

There's also the reality that a Terraform XL is huge in any room, let alone a 2000 cu.ft. room. 


#1, Where is the quote button Mark ? #2 I typed up a name that i think fits you. 

#3, I cannot see the use for 2 Submersives in a 2000 cu.ft. space, especially a sealed room, though perhaps you said 2 since he mentioned a Terraform XL for that room so obviously he wants big time bass?

Though I suppose any room, regardless of the size can benefit from dual subwoofers.


Hi James,

1)  The quote button is at the top right of the posts as the pencil with "..." next to the "#" link.  If you roll your cursor over it you will see a prompt which says "reply with quote."
2)  Thanks.  If you check my profile on AV123, I put the same description there.  In fact, for fun, I snagged http://www.masterofthedeep.com for potential future fun.  Maybe a fun blog or the like.
3)  Small, very rigidly constructed spaces are great for making bass below 30Hz.  They can be VERY tough above there.  The modal problems can often be much worse in a small room, and because of the shorter lengths, the point where the modes are still far apart is in the critical 40-100Hz range.  This is actually one of the reasons I gave the SubMersive so much headroom in this range, as needed EQ can be significant if placement options are limited.  Two SubMersives are well justified due to the room size and the capability of the Catalysts.  My own room at home is about this size with one 3' wide walkway and another close to 6'.  I can easily put a pair of SubMersives to use, although I would probably scare a few from the room in the process.   In this case it's all about location and additional headroom to work with below 20Hz.

Mark Seaton
Seaton Sound, Inc.
sales@seatonsound.net
773-290-8436
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MARS08
JWJ wrote:
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#1, Where is the quote button Mark ?

 

I think the issue is the browser. I just checked and if I use Google Chrome the pencil icon is not visible. When I use IE it works fine.

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Mark_Seaton
MARS08 wrote:
JWJ wrote:
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#1, Where is the quote button Mark ?

 

I think the issue is the browser. I just checked and if I use Google Chrome the pencil icon is not visible. When I use IE it works fine.



It does show up in Firefox.  I'll check a few others and send a note to the forum host.  While a bit more of a pain, you can always use the quote tool at the top of the editing window as you obviously had to in the last post.
Mark Seaton
Seaton Sound, Inc.
sales@seatonsound.net
773-290-8436
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dave
For those who don't see it, copy the text you want to quote and use the quote button in the reply form. That's how I do it from my Mac, running Safari 4.

For anyone who desperately needs it, I've confirmed that the pencil is present when using Firefox, on a Mac or PC.
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mfine
Mark_Seaton wrote:
MARS08 wrote:
JWJ wrote:
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#1, Where is the quote button Mark ?

 

I think the issue is the browser. I just checked and if I use Google Chrome the pencil icon is not visible. When I use IE it works fine.



It does show up in Firefox.  I'll check a few others and send a note to the forum host.  While a bit more of a pain, you can always use the quote tool at the top of the editing window as you obviously had to in the last post.


Works in firefox but not in Safari on a mac or more importantly on an iphone. 
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