Bill Shakes
Hello, my name is Eric and I'm a movieholic.

I'm building a new house with a great room for home theater, dinning room, kitchen all in a row. I know it's not ideal, but in this land of no basements it's the best I could find. I have a few questions

1) I have wife approval to "get bass working again". I had a elemental a5-350 that died and is "cost prohibitive" to repair so size is no issue when it comes to the WAF. I initially looked at the seaton stuff when I bought the eD but didn't have the funds. Now it's go time. I'm planning on going with the F2. I'm wondering though what is going to be the best option for subs. Going single would be nice if I can, but if I'll need two doing the slave option is doable although I like the idea of each being independantly adjustable.

2) right now I am running a Yamaha RVX1800, and am looking at the new Denon 4000 series with the big daddy audyssey in it for tuning. But I'm open to any receiver recommendation with a budget of $1000. Plus I'm thinking with the right audyssey program the slave sub if needed will be able to be tuned very nicely.

I'm currently running energy rc70s for front left and right and energy LCR for the center, these are pre klipsch versions. For the rear four I am running a pair of energy take sats and a pair of old school b&w solids. I'm looking to upgrade the rear speakers as well. Due to floor plan I will have to mount these to the ceiling so they will have to be small enough to be mounted and amiabl and will mate nicely to the fronts.

For rears I'm looking at
Energy cb 10
SVS prime satellite
NHT super one 2.1
I like the idea of a bigger woofer although it's probably not needed. Any suggestions on these options?
Budget for the rear four speakers $1000.

Next thing, room acoustics. The whole wall on the left side of TV wall is a big sliding three piece door. That's a battle I lost with the wife. I will need some serious curtains that will help dampen the reflections from that and they can be as heavy as they need to be to do the job. Anyone know a company that makes curtains that will tame the room down?

I already have ready acoustics 4" panels that will go floor to ceiling in the front corners and the 6" traps to go along the floor. I also have three 2" panels for the ceiling as well. Here are the pics so you can see my dilemma. The TV wall is in the great room and is approx 16' wide. the sliding doors are just over 9'. The reason there is a squiggle line on the pic is because that's just illustrating that the wall will have internal insulation

I know it's a long winded post and there are many parts to it, but things get drowned out at AVS and you lot seem to be very well versed in this stuff so I value your opinions very greatly. Help a brother out!!!! Thanks ahead of time.




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Stereodude
How loudly do you listen?
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Bill Shakes
When I'm by myself, I listen at reference or damn close to reference volume. With other people around, its decently loud for sure but not reference by any means.


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Bill Shakes
I do have better room dimensions, after looking at the blueprints the main area is approx 33x16 with 9" ceilings. The area where the tv is will be carpet, the rest of the area, kitchen, dinning area including hallways will be tile. The carpet will cut off where the wall for bedroom three goes to the hallway straight to the wall at the top where the sliding door will be.
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Stereodude
Where were you thinking to put the subs?  If they're equally distant from your listening position there's no reason to go with duals instead of a master / slave.
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Bill Shakes
I was thinking both go on the TV wall on the end of the great room. Try to place them between tv stand, tv stand is about 60" wide,  and the left and right fronts. Or in the corners on the front wall. Play around with it a bit and see what works better. But think going to try the 1/3 of the wall thing first.  
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Bill Shakes
Got rear speakers planed out. Going with nht superone 2.1.

Another thought though. Does anyone have suggestions on going with the velodyne sms-1 with my current receiver , Yamaha rx-v1800 with Ypao or upgrade to a big daddy Denon 4100 with audyssey and no sms-1?
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Bill Shakes
After chatting with mark on the phone for a little while during work hours, don't tell my boss, f2+ has been ordered. I wasn't supposed to be ready to build for another week and arrive in about two weeks. However I got a surprise email from fed ex today that it was picked up and will be heading out. I'll be damned if I didn't feel like a kid on Xmas with anticipation when I read it and started thinking about the 141 pound box sitting on my doorstep in a few days, I can't wait. Told the wife and her only words were, "thank god now we can watch some proper movies". Awesome.
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Stereodude
Great!

Now you just need to plan for adding the slave later. [smile]
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Bill Shakes
I know. I almost pulled the trigger on it at the same time, but I don't have the space in the current house to even store it. Plus that's a heavy box that I don't want to have to move in a couple of months. Going to get everything set up in the new place, get the acoustic treatment done in there and see where I'm at after that.  
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Got home last night and the wife was able to talk the fed ex guy into bringing the box into the house. Holy crap its a big box! Genius idea of putting the sub in the box upside down by the way. Was super easy unboxing it unlike any other sub or large item I've unboxed. Got it to its temporary home in the corner of the existing house and got it all plugged in. After running YPAO, had to give it a little boost on the receiver settings, damn Yamaha always set sub output to low it seems. Cant wait to sell that thing and switch to the Denon. Anyways, watched a couple of scenes from Tron and the full movie of Godzilla. 

First of all the wife said, its beautiful even before it was turned on so WAF is 100% Then the sound. Holy crap it goes LOW. LOVE it, cant say enough good words about the F2+. If anyone reads this that is on the fence about it, just buy it. You wont regret it. After owning four NHT subs over the years, a 15" velodyne, an elemental eD A5-350, nothing even comes close it to.

Note for mark as well, the black oak finish matches the Energy speaker finish perfectly. There is a slight more texture to the touch, but look wise, its damn near exact. Kind of make me wish I got the Energy in cherry  finish only because the submersive in cherry has got to be spectacular.
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Stereodude
Time to buy the slave, stat!!!
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