Kain
Talking about this: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1163005/the-official-seaton-sound-speaker-thread/540#post_22980099

No updates since that I am aware of. [frown]
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Mark_Seaton
Quick post from the Axpona show...  8C stands are coming after the show, on-walls very shortly after that.
Mark Seaton
Seaton Sound, Inc.
sales@seatonsound.net
773-290-8436
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Kain
Awesome! Thanks for the update. [cool]
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hifiaudio2
OK the stands are done....  bring us the on walls!!!!  I'm gonna need them for the bazillion speaker future Atmos layout!

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hifiaudio2
How similar is the voicing of a JTR single 8HT-lp to Catalysts?  I have never heard a JTR speaker in person.

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audioguy
hifiaudio2 wrote:
How similar is the voicing of a JTR single 8HT-lp to Catalysts?  I have never heard a JTR speaker in person.



For surround purposes, probably similar enough. Should Mark bale on delivery an on wall Spark replacement (hopefully he will delver soon), i would buy 4 of these as they would fit into the columns I built for the new Sparks,

They would make nice height or VOG speakers if you go that way!!
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hifiaudio2
Yeah thats exactly what I am thinking.  I might keep my in soffit Triad angled LCRs for the surround height speakers and get this JTR or Mark's new speaker for the "normal"  surround speakers and VOG... 

Next up will be figuring out if the same speaker layout is appropriate (optimal?)  for both Auro and Atmos.  If not I suppose I should wait until that shakes out a bit. 

Guess I would also need front height speakers, which would necessitate redoing my baffle wall.  

Isn't home theater great???  
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audioguy
hifiaudio2 wrote:
Yeah thats exactly what I am thinking.  I might keep my in soffit Triad angled LCRs for the surround height speakers and get this JTR or Mark's new speaker for the "normal"  surround speakers and VOG... 

Next up will be figuring out if the same speaker layout is appropriate (optimal?)  for both Auro and Atmos.  If not I suppose I should wait until that shakes out a bit. 

Guess I would also need front height speakers, which would necessitate redoing my baffle wall.  

Isn't home theater great???  


It is great so long as you are semi-independtly VERY wealthy !!

I am going to hang on adding any other speakers than the ones I have for a year or so to see how this all shakes out AND after I can compare my 7.2 system to one of the NN.YY Atmos or Auro systems.

I can get height information now (e.g. from Gravity) if it is on the film.  Now if these new systems can do for music what the never released Lexicon product was going to do (THAT sound wildly amazing). I am all in!!!!
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hifiaudio2
Do you know where in Gravity is a good scene to hear if I get convincing height sound?
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audioguy
Not off hand but if you have the movie with Russell Crowe "Master and Commander", during the initial ship battles.  There are scenes that are downstairs in the ship and you can easily hear footsteps above you on the main deck.. Pretty eerie !!!!
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audioguy
See this thread on AVS:

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/86-ultra-hi-end-ht-gear-20-000/1524924-gravity-did-you-notice-overhead-flies-sequence-wow-stunning-sound-engineering-worthy-test-our-ultra-systems.html
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hifiaudio2
Lol out of all the times I have read about Master and Commander being referenced for showing off Submersives.... I dont have nor have I ever seen that movie!  I will have to get it.
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Mark_Seaton
hifiaudio2 wrote:
OK the stands are done....  bring us the on walls!!!!  I'm gonna need them for the bazillion speaker future Atmos layout!


We are indeed closer than we were the last time I posted to the thread.  Once the cabinet production and assembly details are worked out it will move quickly.
Mark Seaton
Seaton Sound, Inc.
sales@seatonsound.net
773-290-8436
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TheMT1
Mark_Seaton wrote:
Once the cabinet production and assembly details are worked out it will move quickly.


I heard the same thing on the F4 almost two years ago!  Has the F4 assembly details been abandoned now that I see you're stacking F2s on top of each other?
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Mark_Seaton
TheMT1 wrote:
Mark_Seaton wrote:
Once the cabinet production and assembly details are worked out it will move quickly.


I heard the same thing on the F4 almost two years ago!  Has the F4 assembly details been abandoned now that I see you're stacking F2s on top of each other?


The eventual release of the HP+ & F2+ came from planning to develop the F4.  We determined there was zero performance benefit to the single tall cabinet, and significant addition to cost, handling logistics in house, inventory/availability, and delivery to customer's homes.  The + options also allow customers to choose whether they want to purchase the 4 driver subwoofer at one time or assemble them over a period of time, along with the option of using pairs of HP cabinets.  

By comparison, the F2+ & F2-Slave in black maple is $4290 + typically less than $200 shipping for the pair... and can ship out in 0-2 business days. The F4 would require a 3-6 week lead time, be $700-900 more expensive than the pair of cabients, and cost $280-500 in shipping by freight on a very tall pallet.  If someone has their heart set on onewants one we can do it, and while I'd have to double check some things, it should start at around $4995 + shipping. 
Mark Seaton
Seaton Sound, Inc.
sales@seatonsound.net
773-290-8436
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hifiaudio2
I agree.. the F2+ and F2 slave makes much more sense...  cost, flexibility, etc as mentioned.  Unless overall cabinet volume being larger helps in some way, I can't see how a true F4 would be better...


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audioguy
Hifiaudio2: run and do not walk to your computer and order that movie. And play the first portion as close to reference as u dare. You will have serious smile fatigue after watching the opening battle scenes!!!
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FOH
Yeah, M&C is certainly a classic for demo material, ... and it's a great film overall as well. Be mindful, different versions possess different extension. IIRC, the BD is high passed, the DVD is extended. But, I'm told there are overseas releases of the BD that are full bandwidth.

Also, if one hasn't seen Lone Survivor, a current relatively new release, it's sound track is extremely well crafted. It's got superb surround effects, and full extension down to 6hz-7hz.   
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audioguy
FOH wrote:
Yeah, M&C is certainly a classic for demo material, ... and it's a great film overall as well. Be mindful, different versions possess different extension. IIRC, the BD is high passed, the DVD is extended. But, I'm told there are overseas releases of the BD that are full bandwidth.

Also, if one hasn't seen Lone Survivor, a current relatively new release, it's sound track is extremely well crafted. It's got superb surround effects, and full extension down to 6hz-7hz.   


I have the Bluray and the DVD.  While the DVD may go lower, the overall experience is just as satisfying/startling/impactful/awesome with the Bluray - at least to me.

I have on my shelf Lone Survivor.  I may have to watch that the first time when my wife is not here !!
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FOH
audioguy wrote:
I have the Bluray and the DVD.  While the DVD may go lower, the overall experience is just as satisfying/startling/impactful/awesome with the Bluray - at least to me.

I have on my shelf Lone Survivor.  I may have to watch that the first time when my wife is not here !!


I would agree, as much as I can appreciate the extra extension of the unfiltered DVD version, the Bluray is preferable. Imagine how wonderful an unfiltered Bluray would be. It's a great film, regardless how you slice it.

Have fun with LS, to say I really liked the sound of the film is an understatement.  [thumb]
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