chayut
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| Posted 02/25/12 at 06:49 AM | Reply with quote #1 |
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Either XLR or power cables...
Will the improvement be significant compare to the given cables?
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gpburns
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| Posted 02/25/12 at 07:52 AM | Reply with quote #2 |
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I personally can not hear any difference, so as long you are getting a solid connection and signal - nada
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audioguy
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| Posted 02/25/12 at 11:59 AM | Reply with quote #3 |
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For xlr interconnects, use any competently designed cable and u will hear ZERO difference! Or less :-)
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JohnnyV
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| Posted 02/25/12 at 02:17 PM | Reply with quote #4 |
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High end power cables don't do any good for any equipment. As long as the supplied cables are sufficient for the application, which they should be. In the case of Seaton products the supplied cables are adequate.
Use high quality xlr cables... note that doesn't mean expensive. |
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JohnnyV
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| Posted 02/25/12 at 02:20 PM | Reply with quote #5 |
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| Real performance gains are found in room acoustics help and proper optimization setup of the equipment and proper room correction EQ. |
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chayut
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| Posted 02/25/12 at 02:25 PM | Reply with quote #6 |
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Thanks all..
it seem like I will be ignoring those MIT cables.
What about the modify done to the equipment ( Modified DCX2496)?
Would that be a waste of money buying it?
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JohnnyV
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| Posted 02/25/12 at 05:07 PM | Reply with quote #7 |
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| About the best you could hope for on modified DC would be a lower noise floor which would probably only matter if your a couple feet from the speaker at very low volume levels .... even then im not sure if the DC noise .floor is dsp related or analog stage related.. if it were my money and under normal listening level conditions I'd focus funds on proper calibration and room acoustics. |
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FOH
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| Posted 02/26/12 at 01:20 PM | Reply with quote #8 |
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+1 with regard to acoustics 
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Optimizing the acoustic interaction between the loudspeakers, and the room in which they're used, is where the enormous gain reside. The complex manner that loudspeakers interact with the room, and the psychoacoustic mechanism in general, aren't nearly as sexy as cool gear, audio jewelry and killer terms such as slam, pace, drive, etc. However, in my opinion a truly quality playback experience is rooted in quality source material, played back via superb loudspeakers that are properly set up and mated acoustically to their environment.
Even if there was a quantifiable element that power cables, interconnects, and speaker cables brought to the equation, it would be minuscule when compared to the impact of acoustic integration. There are those that would prefer buying a high end subwoofer interconnect while pursuing an appreciable LF upgrade, rather than examine the time domain behavior of their listening room that possesses no bass traps or measure to damp the ringing response.
Just my 2 cents, ..hope this helps
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Blackdevil77
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| Posted 04/07/12 at 06:16 AM | Reply with quote #9 |
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| Are these cables any good? A lot over on AVS recommend Monoprice and the price and reviews look good for this cable
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audioguy
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| Posted 04/07/12 at 03:11 PM | Reply with quote #10 |
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I use BlueJeans cables. Well built and cheap. Monoprice is also good stuff!
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calentz
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| Posted 04/07/12 at 03:51 PM | Reply with quote #11 |
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Quote: Originally Posted by audioguy
I use BlueJeans cables. Well built and cheap. Monoprice is also good stuff!
I also use BlueJeans for my copper needs. (Monoprice for my quick needs - I live close by)
Interesting reading: http://www.bluejeanscable.com/legal/mcp/index.htm
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FOH
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| Posted 04/07/12 at 04:08 PM | Reply with quote #12 |
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I've got some of each.
A word of caution to the Monoprice stuff; I'd suggest any purchase is accompanied with a brief QC check at the user end. Their products seem to leave the facility without a full, comprehensive check,...in my opinion. Also, open up each connector body and examine the termination fully,...you'd be surprised. All said, the Mono stuff is dirt cheap and decent.
Blue Jeans is certainly a significant step up.
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Blackdevil77
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| Posted 04/07/12 at 04:47 PM | Reply with quote #13 |
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| Thanks for the link. I just checked out the bluejeanscable.com website. The price of their cables cost more then what Mark recommended to use with his Submersives
He recommended these:
Can you tell a difference between any of these wires? |
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gpburns
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| Posted 04/07/12 at 05:32 PM | Reply with quote #14 |
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your local music store is also good place to get cables grap some XLR with Neutrik ends
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FOH
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| Posted 04/08/12 at 09:47 AM | Reply with quote #15 |
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackdevil77Thanks for the link. I just checked out the bluejeanscable.com website. The price of their cables cost more then what Mark recommended to use with his Submersives
He recommended these:
Can you tell a difference between any of these wires?
The Markertek cables are fantastic. It's merely preference with adequate cabling,...ie as long as they're properly made/terminated, as Markertek are, they'll be no audible difference. Long, low level subwoofer feeds, need decent immunity to induced junk. Any decent XLR cable should be ok.
The BlueJeans stuff is very nice, but as long as a cheaper product functions as designed, there wouldn't likely be any difference. Blue Jeans just gives the buyer all custom choices of exact length, color, connector body, cable mfr., etc.
Markertek is where many broadcast pros go to buy whatever they need.
Also, gpburns offered good advice too. Your local big music/pro audio superstore will have a variety of cabling. Even any smaller ProAudio contractor should be able to accommodate your needs.
Good luck
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Mark_Seaton
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| Posted 04/10/12 at 10:38 AM | Reply with quote #16 |
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MarkerTek's TecNec cables are terminated in house (NY I believe). If you poke around the TecNec brand XLR-XLR cables you will see that you can also get cables made with Mogami star-quad, or Belden's popular wire. Some like one wire over another for some cases. Canare is one of the lowest noise while being nice to handle (very flexible, etc). In VERY long runs when used for tiny microphone signals some professionals prefer other cables for certain uses. For very long runs there are cases where someone might want to choose a lower capacitance cable, but in a home setting (ie under 50'), the differences are extremely small.
For the moderate price difference, I do recommend the MarkTek or similar cables over the Monoprice cables. I haven't tried their XLR cables, but I have plenty of other cables from Monoprice. Their RCA and other cables can be very rigid which can be good or bad depending on the use. If buying from Monoprice, I generally always suggest going to a premium cable. This is really a matter of construction quality and robustness when you handle it and yank it in/out of a connection a few times over a few years.
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Blackdevil77
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| Posted 04/10/12 at 11:18 AM | Reply with quote #17 |
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I ended up ordering the Markertek cables. Cost me about 400 bucks total for all the cables I'm gonna need to hook everything up, including my 2 future submersive HP's (hopefully) 
Mark, I sent an e-mail yesterday, but I'm not sure If I sent it to the right e-mail about shipping costs to Long Island. |
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skillet
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| Posted 04/14/12 at 08:47 AM | Reply with quote #18 |
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Along these same lines, if you're using a pre/pro that does not have balanced outputs, what, if any advantage would using a converter like this (http://www.rane.com/bb44x.html) have over using the simple RCA to XLR connectors like the ones Mark includes with the Submersives? Are these converters only beneficial if you're using very long runs of cable, or would they make any difference even with 10'-15' runs?
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