sandbagger
Ok folks, I know there has been some talk but I would like to gauge actual interest in a premium upgrade.

As mark mentioned, for the stock driver, its not worth it to do anything more than just drop the PE SA240W -B and just drop and go.

The premium upgrade will probably geared toward duals as the amp I am thinking of using should power 2 with little to no problem and will also include 2 new HIGH PERFORMANCE DRIVERS!!!   The amp will be optimized to work with the new drivers and cabinet size.  Think Turbo kit but for the UF/UL-10 subs.

With this setup we are thinking we can get about 2X the output(5-6db gain) along with a much increased sound quality and much more behaved at higher output while digging  DEEPER!

I am not sure of price right now, but it wont be cheap, for duals it will probably be in the area of a single Turbo kit, but this will be for the amp and 2 drivers. I know some of you have singles and while this will work, it wont be a savings of 1/2 the price due to the cost of the amp, just the cost of a single driver. 

This kit will be great for those of you using them for 2ch with outboard amps as the amp has rca level stereo inputs and highpass with variable crossover.

I am using this thread to gauge interest, not a definitive yes/no
So who is interested?  questions? comments?
Kevin
Motor City Custom Audio
http://motorcitycustomaudio.com/
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sandbagger
48 hits and not one person has a comment?
Kevin
Motor City Custom Audio
http://motorcitycustomaudio.com/
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dane
I have twin UFW-10's with the absolute original amps..  still working fine to this day-- but as you know, they start dropping off like a rock around 30Hz... 

So yes, I would be interested in how to get these puppies down another octave (you didin't specify HOW much deeper..  ).    Increased power would be a nice second-place upgrade, but I've so far been fairly pleased (with our listening ranges) with how loud they can go...

And it sounds like you are suggesting the upgrade will pull the plate amp and use an external 2ch amp, is that correct?   Depending on placement options of the external amp, it may be a deal breaker.   Could I put it under the couch, for instance (digital amp?) or would it need plenty of breathing room?

Cost might be a bit of a concern though-- my twins still work, so justifying an upgrade is more difficult..

With all that said though-- yes, I would be interested (very much so) in hearing about a solution.  The devil is always in the details of course. 

cheers,
..dane
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Mark_Seaton
I was seeing a very possible +-3dB to ~24Hz, but with a very low +-6dB window close to 16Hz. This will still be plenty loud and *much* deeper reaching in room.
Mark Seaton
Seaton Sound, Inc.
sales@seatonsound.net
773-290-8436
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sandbagger
Sounds a little better than a cliff roll off at 30hz

Mark_Seaton wrote:
I was seeing a very possible +-3dB to ~24Hz, but with a very low +-6dB window close to 16Hz. This will still be plenty loud and *much* deeper reaching in room.
Kevin
Motor City Custom Audio
http://motorcitycustomaudio.com/
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Stereodude
Yeah, but Dane's cheap.   Or, at the least not down for the >$600 this baby is bound to cost.
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sandbagger
Horse Power and Performance costs.... 

Stereodude wrote:
Yeah, but Dane's cheap.   Or, at the least not down for the >$600 this baby is bound to cost.
Kevin
Motor City Custom Audio
http://motorcitycustomaudio.com/
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dane
Mark_Seaton wrote:
I was seeing a very possible +-3dB to ~24Hz, but with a very low +-6dB window close to 16Hz. This will still be plenty loud and *much* deeper reaching in room.


That sounds good to me (for a 10" sealed sub)!

sandbagger wrote:
Sounds a little better than a cliff roll off at 30hz


Amen brother!

Stereodude wrote:
Yeah, but Dane's cheap.   Or, at the least not down for the >$600 this baby is bound to cost.


hahha..  it seems my years of being cheap have caught up with me.   I've actually been "on the mend" regarding my cheapness in recent years.  But reputations are hard to break, it seems. 

Anyhoo, I just spent around $2500 earlier this year upgrading our TV, receiver, bluray player, etc.  So that's not "cheap" in my book.  But it does mean that it will be difficult to find the funds (and justify it) to do a $600 upgrade to each sub.

But he asked about gauging interest, not a definitive yes/no.  I am interested, but with budget constraints. 

cheers,
..dane
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Mark_Seaton
dane wrote:
Mark_Seaton wrote:
I was seeing a very possible +-3dB to ~24Hz, but with a very low +-6dB window close to 16Hz. This will still be plenty loud and *much* deeper reaching in room.


That sounds good to me (for a 10" sealed sub)!

Stereodude wrote:
Yeah, but Dane's cheap.   Or, at the least not down for the >$600 this baby is bound to cost.


hahha..  it seems my years of being cheap have caught up with me.   I've actually been "on the mend" regarding my cheapness in recent years.  But reputations are hard to break, it seems. 

Anyhoo, I just spent around $2500 earlier this year upgrading our TV, receiver, bluray player, etc.  So that's not "cheap" in my book.  But it does mean that it will be difficult to find the funds (and justify it) to do a $600 upgrade to each sub.

But he asked about gauging interest, not a definitive yes/no.  I am interested, but with budget constraints. 

cheers,
..dane


Hi Dane,

I think it will work out to closer to $400 per sub if doing a pair.  The original UFW/ULWs all had a simple 2nd order high pass EQ on them, with the originals possibly having one more band of EQ applied than was in the PE amp.  The troubled replacement/signature amps had yet another EQ curve.  The concept I have is to make for a sealed response down close to 15Hz which will make for a killer little setup for small rooms and not ask too much of the 10s in larger rooms, while still giving some very noticeable LF extension and smoothness.  I would suggest the net difference to expect is a noticeable increase in sound quality, with the headroom to support the added low frequency extension, and overall 1.5-2x the total headroom.
Mark Seaton
Seaton Sound, Inc.
sales@seatonsound.net
773-290-8436
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dane
Thanks Mark.  I like what I'm hearing, but still $800 is quite a chunk of change.  I will send you a PM to ask a few offline questions..

thanks,
..dane
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tortoiseman2542
I'm definitely interested, however given the cost, I would drop the $800 on an MFW upgrade first.  I have an A stock Diamond Moho MFW 15 that I would upgrade first if the cost was the same.  The UFW 10 I got is less than B stock (lots of scratches) and is only used in a 2 channel bedroom set up.  All my home theater speakers are Ninja'd and I think the upgraded MFW would fit right in.  I am still interested in this upgrade if the price was right or I picked up another UFW. 


Robert
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etcarroll
So - definately for 2 10s?

I have 1 that just started acting up.
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Stereodude
You can use the same 240W Dayton Amp that VA321 was using at the end.
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sandbagger
Do you have just 1 or 2?

It wont really be cost effective for just a single, but it could be done.

etcarroll wrote:
So - definately for 2 10s?

I have 1 that just started acting up.
Kevin
Motor City Custom Audio
http://motorcitycustomaudio.com/
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etcarroll

Just one. Running Onix Reference 3s for 2-channel, got the 10 incher just to fill in the bottom a little.

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CODES1

newbie here! i have a ufw 10 making all the noises, amp was replaced by av123 when still in buisness with the one with knobs ,it has the eq, i have a new parts express 250 watt will this work ok?

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sandbagger
This is the one you want to use http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-805

But if its the non -B amp that will work too


CODES1 wrote:

newbie here! i have a ufw 10 making all the noises, amp was replaced by av123 when still in buisness with the one with knobs ,it has the eq, i have a new parts express 250 watt will this work ok?

Kevin
Motor City Custom Audio
http://motorcitycustomaudio.com/
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CODES1
ANYONE KNOW WHAT SIZE SPIKES A UFW 10 TAKES?
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dane
Resurrecting an old thread...  My original stock amp from 2003 has finally developed hum.  Now to be fair, there is a chance that a wire came loose inside. One of the RCA inputs is completely dead.  So I'm going to be removing the plate amp to see if it's a simple fix.  But I've been thinking more and more about upgrading the pair to drive harder and deeper.  Their small size is still perfect for my room configuration, and I'm now using a BFD to balance plus my new(er) Marantz SR8001 includes Audyssey for further (paired) correction.

I'd rather not go DOWN in power (Dayton Amp).. 

Did this project ever catch-on, or did the limited response cause it to never leave the ground?

thanks,
..dane

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