Mark_Seaton

Hmmm... 

Mark Seaton
Seaton Sound, Inc.
sales@seatonsound.net
773-290-8436
Quote 0 0
dave
Because of people like me?
This is not a sig. This is a duck. Quack.
Quote 0 0
MrsAndyS
well you don't have anything else to do right
Quote 0 0
Buzz3

For people to talk about the pictures of the killer outdoor theaters your gonna post? 

Quote 0 0
Mark_Seaton
Buzz3 wrote:

For people to talk about the pictures of the killer outdoor theaters your gonna post? 

Now there's a good idea.

How's this for a start...

These pictures are from last September, when I visited Keith Yates in N California for his annual movie night under the stars.  While the majority of credit goes to Keith and his co-workers, I had a major hand 3 years ago pulling together and helping with final set up of the first year he went with a big screen, and of course I helped creatively integrate some of Tom Danley's brilliant products.  Let's just say most concert providers would be jealous of this system and especially the sound quality:

2nd Row View
Mark Seaton
Seaton Sound, Inc.
sales@seatonsound.net
773-290-8436
Quote 0 0
Mark_Seaton
Now let's ruin the picture by putting me in it, but at least I add some scale...

Mark Seaton
Seaton Sound, Inc.
sales@seatonsound.net
773-290-8436
Quote 0 0
MrsAndyS
OMG do you think we could fit one of those in our backyard...that is ridiculous
Quote 0 0
dwayland
Very impressive!  What was the projection equipment?

By the way, I know you now add a visit to North Carolina in your "Mark's Travels" thread!  
Quote 0 0
MikeDuke
That is Freakin' cool as you know what .  I can assume that there is some massive power behind that setup since you have no room gain at all?  Am I seeing 4 DT-20's?
I simply love this stuff.
Quote 0 0
Buzz3

Scale?  What are you, about 4'8"? 

Quote 0 0
Mark_Seaton
Buzz3 wrote:

Scale?  What are you, about 4'8"? 


Very funny Buzz3,

I'm not tall, but I am about 5' 9", and that screen is 16x9... 

Climbing up top.

No really, it's 16 feet by 9 feet.

Mark Seaton
Seaton Sound, Inc.
sales@seatonsound.net
773-290-8436
Quote 0 0
dave
Mark_Seaton wrote:
I'm not tall,


So THAT'S why those subs look so big!


This is not a sig. This is a duck. Quack.
Quote 0 0
Blaser

What is really nice in this setup is there are no more room interactions... So I guess a very high SQ

Bass Bass Bass and Bass again!
Quote 0 0
mfine
Are those potted green and pink things there to treat the first reflection through diffusion or absorption? 
Quote 0 0
Drunkonjack
Does that screen stay up all the time ? Or does he out it up only on movie night ?
Quote 0 0
CalebDick
What is the system and setup?  It looks like Danley SH-50's for Left and Right, 4 DTS-20's for subs, unknown center channel, and a large horn (?) for additional subs.  TH-215's?  Were there SH-100's for surrounds? 

Outdoor theaters are becoming more popular, esp in Southern states.  Having a screen, projector, speakers, and rack that slide into the ground, like a huge sprinkler system is what I have seen.  Acoustic diffusion, absorption, barrier, and black velor to taste. 

Caleb

Quote 0 0
KeithYates
Hi, CalebDick, et al.,

This is the first time I've ever responded to an internet forum of any type, so please forgive any breach of etiquette. Mark's pix appear to be of my Fall 2006 backyard soiree. Yes, the LCRs at that time were Danley SH50's. Two Danley-designed BDEAP subs behind the baffle wall covered the 30-60Hz range by loading into the large custom horn whose 8-ft wide mouth can be seen below the screen. The four Danley DTS20's in front of "Big Green" extend response to roughly 14Hz. As I recall, we had 6 Danley-designed pole-mounted Runt speakers for surrounds that year. I think QSC RMX2450HD power amps drove the LCRs and surrounds, and 2300 watt/channel LabGruppens drove the BDEAPs and DTS20's.

The wall stays up year-round, but the speakers, subs, etc. go into storage till the next year.

Speaking of which ... For the 2007 version I upgraded the passive SH50 LCRs to a larger, custom multi-amped variant, using a 60x40 horn, (4) 15-inch woofers instead of (2) 12-inchers, (4) up-spec'd midranges, an up-spec'd compression driver, over-built cabinet, etc. That year I retained the BDEAPs & horn for the 30-60Hz range, but swapped out the DTS20s -- which were splendid -- for a pair of KYDG-branded "BFT9 UberSubs," which amount to DTS 20s on steroids, optimized by Tom Danley to be flat to 9Hz outdoors, and built by my shop here on the West Coast. (BTW, the "BFT9" designation refers to "Blunt Force Trauma, 9Hz.") Also that year I used 3 Dolby Lake Processors for x-over and EQ functions. LabGruppen amps fed each LCR with 4 x 2300 watts: 1 for HF, 1 for MF, 1 for 2 of the 15-inch woofers, and 1 for the other 2 15's. Also swapped out the 6 Runts for 4 Danley SH100s. I've attached 6 pix of the event.

The sound was riveting in '07, literally created that ache-in-your-bones, tears-running-down-your-face effect in some of us at the sound-check the night before the event. (It was less good at the party itself, as we had to erect last-minute tents under threat of rain; the tents degraded sound quality somewhat.) Some of the 180 guests flew in from France, Germany, Switzerland, and throughout the US. The next morning, 15 or 20 of us gathered with our coffee, pulled up lawn chairs and just listened to standard CDs for a few hours. It was "just" two-channel, but the sound still haunts us.

Hope that helps.

All Ears, Click image for larger version - Name: soundcheck_the_night_before_lo_res.jpg, Views: 1623, Size: 57.95 KB Click image for larger version - Name: tilting_up_the_big_projector_lo_res.jpg, Views: 1620, Size: 78.72 KB
Click image for larger version - Name: taking_the_wraps_off_lo_res.jpg, Views: 1621, Size: 59.61 KB Click image for larger version - Name: dinner_lo_res.jpg, Views: 1615, Size: 57.00 KB Click image for larger version - Name: behind_the_curtain_lo_res.jpg, Views: 1623, Size: 37.88 KB Click image for larger version - Name: reverse_angle_lo_res.jpg, Views: 1615, Size: 35.03 KB
--Keith
Quote 0 0
mfine
WELCOME! (to the 21st century )

So, is this thing only used once a year for the annual movie night, or are there smaller viewings throughout the summer?

Also, how close are the nearest neighbors?  I have to imagine the low frequencies can carry pretty far at the levels you seem capable of achieving. 

Quote 0 0
KeithYates
I live in the middle of a 40 acre parcel shared with 2 neighbors, both of whom show up and enjoy the event, so no problem there. There are other neighbors, starting around 500 ft from the system, directly in the "line of fire" and the truth is, sheriff deputies show up every year because one of them -- don't know who -- calls to complain. It helps that I call the sheriff on the morning of the party to let them know we'll be shutting it down at exactly 10:00 that evening. Anyway, they show up, grab a plate of BBQ, and watch the show, confirming that it's scripted to end at exactly 10:00. (Scripts are one of the many beauties of the Kaleidescape system.) Also, I invite any and all neighbors I run into while out jogging the few weeks before the event, which helps.

Some of the guests stay at a B&B in a nearby town, roughly 2 miles away as the crow flies. On the morning after the '07 event, the lady serving them breakfast said she really liked the way my Baroque opera piece segued into the Fifth Element "Diva" scene. They asked if she'd been there. "No, but we could hear it perfectly right here," she said. Arrgh.

Some years, I'll have the system up for a month or so, other years for maybe 2 weeks.

--Keith
Quote 0 0
mfine
I have a black powder cannon and you can clearly hear echos as it bounces off  a hill about a mile away.  That is about 2 miles of travel plus the absorption and diffusion of hitting a tree covered hill.  I would think the direct line of travel on that setup would be audible pretty far on a calm night.  The neighbors at 500 feet should either join the party or take a little vacation.

LOL, at the baroque opera into the diva scene segue!

Quote 0 0
Mark_Seaton
KeithYates wrote:
Hi, CalebDick, et al.,

This is the first time I've ever responded to an internet forum of any type, so please forgive any breach of etiquette. Mark's pix appear to be of my Fall 2006 backyard soiree.


Keith Yates on an internet forum...  I have to say it's nice to be the first to host you!


Of course bumping this thread with all those great pictures makes me eye the virtual shelf where some fun outdoor product ideas have lingered and gestated.  Hopefully the situation this summer will afford more time to explore a few of those.

It also reminds me of the '05 evolution of your "backyard HT" and the adventure of the first assembly of the the green monster with "just" the B-DeapR's and TD-2s (back when Tom Danley & I were still under the dark cloud of our past employer ).  The system has evolved impressively each year since.

Thank you very much for posting this Keith.  Hopefully you might find occasion or the inkling to post some tidbits of your other very interesting work here on the forum.

Thanks for jumping in, and do feel free to hang around. 
Mark Seaton
Seaton Sound, Inc.
sales@seatonsound.net
773-290-8436
Quote 0 0
MikeDuke

Just wanted to say hello to Keith.  Your Way Down Deep study was great and really taught me a lot about subs.  Welcome to the forum.

I simply love this stuff.
Quote 0 0
itai
Keith, welcome to the forum. We met at CEDIA when Mark and I bumped into your guys and spent hours talking about home theaters. Our conversation about some of your impressive projects were the highlight of my CEDIA trip. I can say that the detail in your HT projects truly extend to the outdoors which is incredible.

I am amazed to see a setup with three dolby lake processors... how cool is that. I hope you will continue to share some of your stories as they are inspiring and detailed.

Regards,
Itai
Quote 0 0
hoot
Doesn't look like a heavy metal crowd LOL
Quote 0 0
KlipschHead281
Could you imagine the fun it must have been to set that up, incredible. I'm thinking of doing an outdoor event where we keep our 5th wheel but it's going to be so small compared to this awesome event.

AVR/Blu-Ray - Marantz SR7009 (9.2.2) - Blu-Ray Oppo UDP 203 - Apple TV
Front Height Amplifier - 2 Marantz MA6100's
Speakers - Klipsch RF-82 - Center RC-64 - Front Wide 2 RP-160M, Front Height 2 RB-10
Rear Surround - Surround Back 2 RS-52, Surround 2 R-14M
Subs - Dual MFW15's (Seaton Sound ICE amplifiers, soon to be triple MFW's)
TV -Samsung 55" 8500
2CH - Klipsch "The Sixes" and 1 MFW15


Quote 0 0