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MFW-15 Turbo Upgrade is now available!!!

IN STOCK !!!!

I will be emailing everyone in the first batch later today

The Kits are now $795.00

Please email orders@motorcitycustomaudio.com
to be placed on a list so as kits become available I can contact you. 

If you have a Rosewood cabinet these are not a direct drop in.  The driver hole was not built to Marks design on the cabinets from China.  Please contact me if you are still interested and I will explain what will need to be modified.

DRIVER

Handmade in the USA by a very reputable manufacturer custom for this application.

15” High Excursion Kraft Pulp Fiber reinforced Paper cone with a Full Faced Poly inverted Dustcap
3” copper Voice Coil
More than 2.8” of excursion capability
More than 2” of linear excursion
12 Spoke cast aluminum basket with under spider venting
Vented Voice coil gap design with vented pole
Distortion reducing aluminum shorting ring
Approximately 42lbs…. yes it’s that massive  

 AMP

A new 1000W amp that is well respected and robust (bullet proof).  It has been properly customized and matched to the characteristics of the driver and cabinet for optimum output and response along with amp limiting.  This 1000W class AB amp can either be placed on a rack, on top of the sub or rack mountable via supplied rack ears(2RU).  The amp also includes single point parametric EQ along with auto on or 12v triggered on.


Any one ordering a kit is also eligible to purchase the 5.1 Audio Tool Kit for $50.00 and anyone ordering Duals or more is eligible to purchase any LCR(non sub) Seaton Sound Product at Family pricing in the future.  This was discussed here http://www.seaton-sound-forum.com/post/show_single_post?pid=40284341&postcount=294

While developing the new custom driver we ran into a slight issue that the Driver surround is larger than the previous driver.   When I put the face plate on I found that the surround on the driver is larger than the faceplate hole. Mark and I decided instead of trying to get the driver manufacturer to develop a new surround(lots of time) we decided that the added capability of the surround and bullet proof function was worth a little bit of hassle.  I will supplying new bolts (standard or metric depending on what you have) and ½” nylon spacers.  This will push the faceplate out about 5/16” more than current as there is a 3/16” spacer now.  You also need to make sure you have the driver centered pretty good.  If this is a problem for anyone you can take a rotary tool and sand the inside of the face plate then stain it black or for shipping costs I can router it out and refinish it.  The stock grill still works perfect and so do the aftermarket metal grills.


The TURBO Kit is an upgrade for the MFW-15 and will consists of the following:
A new 1000Watt Amp modified, Custom 15” driver, 2 block off plates to replace the top adjustment plate and plate amp while providing connection for the outboard amp. The lower plate also has speaker connectors with wire for the driver already connected.  4 nylon spacers with longer bolts( please specify SAE or Metric Threads)  Gasket Material for the driver and plates along with new screws
Warranty is 1yr driver and amp.

Also if you have changed your email address you might want to send me an email as I have at least 1 that is bad.  I will post those that I get a bounce to in the old thread.

PLEASE READ BELOW
I need to post this here

I am down to the last few block off plates.  Once these are gone running another batch is probably not going to happen. Due to costs of having to cut a 4X8 sheet and then having it anodized and the slowing down of orders it just doesn't make any business sense to do at this time.  That and I cant believe there are that many MFW-15's left out there that either haven't already had a Turbo put into them or have been turned into kindling [wink]   

The friend that had been CNCing the amp face plates is now working 2 jobs plus the CNC in his garage.  He has no time these days to set up and run 2 face plates at a time, it just doesn't work anymore and going someplace else to have it done would be huge money.  After the last few of these are sold that I have block off plates for I will no longer be machining the faceplates.  Either you can wire to the speaker terminals on the amp plate or drill holes through the cabinet for the binding posts that I will still supply.  Or something else that I haven't thought of.

I took a huge hit when we moved to the current driver and I only raised prices by $50.  After these next few are sold I have to raise the price.  Costs have been slowly changing on the amps also.   I did what I could to keep costs down for the community that got screwed over when AV123 closed up leaving a ton of bad product out there with faulty amps.   I will have to raise the price.....

So to sum things up 
After the next few kits are sold the following will be changing 
Price goes to $899+ shipping
Amp face plates no longer machined
Block off plates no longer supplied

I will still be selling the kits and supporting the ones I have sold.
There is no shortage of drivers or amps.

Kevin


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Here is a link on the how to install here

As for figuring out what size face plate bolts you have. SAE ¼-20 will have letters on the head and the metric will have a 10.9 or something like that stamped on the head.  To be sure the easiest thing to do is take one out, don’t loosen the others just take the one out as the rubber washer will stay in place.  Take it up to the local hardware and see what size nut threads on, should be 1/4 -20 but if it is metric the 1/4 -20 will still thread on but be sloppy and loose, try a metric nut should be a 6-1mm nut.  The metric bolts were used only in the cabinets out of china, not sure of all the finishes but for sure the Rosewood Cabinets have them .  The threads on the ¼ -20 will also be courser as shown in the picture below on the left.

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Here is the pic I am sure everyone wants to see


This is about as close as I can get to a 1M test as I am about 20-30ft from houses.... but this should give you a very good idea of what it can and will do

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Talking to the wife, one of mine is definitely going south, if I leave it on for an hour or so before a movie it's fine, if I use it for a movie right away before it warms up it sounds horrific.


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Front Height Amplifier - 2 Marantz MA6100's
Speakers - Klipsch RF-82 - Center RC-64 - Front Wide 2 RP-160M, Front Height 2 RB-10
Rear Surround - Surround Back 2 RS-52, Surround 2 R-14M
Subs - Dual MFW15's (Seaton Sound ICE amplifiers, soon to be triple MFW's)
TV -Samsung 55" 8500
2CH - Klipsch "The Sixes" and 1 MFW15


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Hi, first post here, and first off I just wanted to say thanks for providing an option for us MFW "loyalists".

I wanted to ask if there are pics of the rear of the sub that shows the block-off plate for the old plate amp? I'm just curious what it looks. Thanks.
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These are all from the old thread, but should answer your questions




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Hi, first post here, and first off I just wanted to say thanks for providing an option for us MFW "loyalists".

I wanted to ask if there are pics of the rear of the sub that shows the block-off plate for the old plate amp? I'm just curious what it looks. Thanks.

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Perfect! Thanks, sandbagger!
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Nice to see this is finally available! I'll have to make a decision. Do you have any idea on how soon you will clear out the existing orders and get to new orders?
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I currently have enough drivers on order(4-8wks aprox) to cover the rest of the wait list with room for a few more.

I would recommend sending me an email to get on the list though.

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Nice to see this is finally available! I'll have to make a decision. Do you have any idea on how soon you will clear out the existing orders and get to new orders?

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Kevin is local to me, and came over Saturday night to install my Turbo kit for me on my black MFW-15.  Took about 90 minutes max (I probably slowed him down chatting while he worked).

The quality of the new components, cover plates, especially the new driver, are very high quality.  The plates fit perfectly and are also sealed with rubber gasket all the way around, as is the new driver.  So excellent air sealing of the box at any point it could leak air in an unwanted manner.

I haven't had time yet to try to get an initial room EQ curve to see where I might have a big peak or valley in the response so I can tweak the parametric EQ settings.

Last night I found a great LFE test disk to use - my Blu Ray copy of "IMAX: Hubble" showing a full 5.1 shuttle launch that will shake your rafters!!  It is also a nice long sustained LFE, not just a quick boom like gunfire.  This scene will really put the new driver and amp through its paces.

http://www.amazon.com/IMAX-Hubble-Blu-ray-Digital-Combo/dp/B004UBUNDE/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1347298277&sr=8-3&keywords=IMAX%3AHubble


A second similar DVD is "IMAX: The Dream is Alive" which has the loud double sonic boom of shuttle reentry right at the beginning, but has 3 different launch scenes also very very worthy of an LFE demo.

http://www.amazon.com/Dream-Alive-IMAX-Graeme-Ferguson/dp/B00005BCKH/ref=sr_1_2?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1347298369&sr=1-2&keywords=IMAX%3AThe+Dream+is+alive

The added half-inch spacer to push out the front cabinet plate a bit more from the driver surround is not even noticable unless you are standing above the sub looking down at the front where you'll see them.  My custom metal grille still sticks perfectly since the metal screws are in the same holes as before.

As a side, if anyone needs to buy a perfectly good working spare original MFW-15 driver, and the AV123 plate amp, Kevin has both of my pieces with him.  They are available for purchase.

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Using the Hubble blu ray disc which I mentioned in the previous post as my source, I recorded a short video of the shuttle launch scene which really exercises the MFW-15 Turbo. 

Of course,the audio quality of all that bass on my cell phone is horrid - the video is meant to show the driver excursion during a sustained scene.

At about 1:50 into the video you can see and hear an extra "thump" in the soundtrack when the solid rocket boosters are explosively separated from the shuttle.  Even with all that constant LFE running, the Turbo still delivered that extra punch.  Very impressive!

The link is to my Dropbox public share...  http://db.tt/neSIAsTg



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Is it ok if the blue amp lights flash red on intense bass scenes or is the amp overdriving?
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The change from blue to red is just showing you that you are getting close to the limiter.  Its not till your solid red that you have run out of gas.  Even with full gain you cannot get it to make strange and funny noises that send you running for the volume control.

You have nothing to worry about.

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Is it ok if the blue amp lights flash red on intense bass scenes or is the amp overdriving?

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Here is the pic I am sure everyone wants to see <img src="/images/boards/smilies/biggrin.gif" alt="" align="absmiddle" border="0" /><br /><br /><br />This is about as close as I can get to a 1M test as I am about 20-30ft from houses.... but this should give you a very good idea of what it can and will do


Nice work!

With a little room gain that should net a nice house curve.

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These are all from the old thread, but should answer your questions






HEY - that picture sure looks quite familiar...hopefully someone receives royalties for every view that beauty gets! 

Great to see the Turbo is alive and well with the v2 kit!  I've been away from most forums for a while due to some more-important personal changes in my life.  But as the dust is finally settling, I'll definitely be getting back into this great hobby.  Though I haven't been able to enjoy my v1 Turbo in many months now, hopefully will get the entire system back up 'n running by the end of October/early November in my new(ish) house, if nothing goes haywire.  If anyone in the Seattle area wants to lend a hand in exchange for some movie nights... 

As I've mentioned before, the Turbo kit was one of the best upgrades I have ever done to my AV system - it absolutely kicks a$$ without blinking an eye.  I can only imagine what a Submersive would be capable of...

My reason for popping back to the forum was to check the status of the Turbo kits as I might (might) be in the market for a second sub down the road.  Assuming the house closes as scheduled, the new media room is big enough to add a second sub, which I'd try to get a matching cherry cabinet and add the v2 kit.  I'd be curious to Kevin/Mark's thoughts on how well the v1 and v2 Turbos would play together.  I'd assume the two subs would blend seamlessly...

I hope everyone on the v2 waiting list gets their shipment soon!  I had some comments during the installation of my kit on the original Turbo thread (CLICK HERE) - you might want to read thru it for some helpful hints.  I highly recommend securing the internal wiring to the bracing so there are no rattles during good LFE scenes.  I had to go back into my cabinet to correct this, and it was NOT fun pulling out the Turbo driver striaght upwards out of the cabinet.  It weighs a ton, and not much room to get your fingers between the driver housing and the faceplate's cutout.  Measure twice, cut once, plan ahead - you know the drill...
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Just a quick update.
I am currently out of drivers but have a large order due in about 4weeks.
I am almost caught up with the wait list and with this new batch of drivers I will be able to get completely caught up and actually fill orders on demand!!

At this point I have sent emails to everyone on the wait list so if you haven't received it you might want to look in your spam filter or drop me an email again.

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I'm curious..

Just as Kevin and Mark have recently and finally been able to obtain what they needed to make the MFW-15 Turbo a reality and available to more than just a few, I am temporarily unable to participate in this upgrade due to other priorities (a new roof/other home maintenance/property taxes/used Maggie 3.6's) having consumed my heretofore previously available financial savings. So, as I am retired and on a fixed income, where savings accumulate painfully slow, I am in a position where I must wait until I have built up the needed financial resource to go this path myself.

While waiting, I'm wondering when we might see some feedback from some of you new owners of the VII Turbo upgrade. How about letting those of us who must wait, know what you think of the upgrade. Appreciate any feedback that is shared here.

Thank you,
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Happy to see that the new drivers will be arriving soon.  I will be in a position by the end of the year to order the upgrade, and finally get the moho box I won in the AV123 auction up and running!  Keep us updated on when the drivers arrive sandbagger!
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I have drivers in stock now without homes

Once I get back from vacation I will be shipping out the rest of the wait listed cusomers kits and then I can ship orders on demand.

It has been a very long road to this point( much longer than I ever thought)


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