Mark_Seaton
Upgrade your original MFW-15 to a 700W (conservatively rated) ICEpower amplifier with a custom designed, 43 lb woofer for more than double the capability than the original MFW-15 and improved sound quality.  The custom-fit amplifier is manufactured for us by the same California based build house as our SubMersive amplifiers, SpeakerPower, and comes with a 3 year warranty while being serviceable long after that time.

Amplifier features:
  • 700W RMS ICEpower amplification
  • XLR/RCA inputs with auto-sensing and 12V trigger
  • LF EQ for room size and house curve adjustment
  • 30-200Hz 24dB/oct crossover
  • 0-20ms delay control for front/rear subs
  • Assembled in USA - all but the ICEpower module is USA sourced
  • Included block off plate for original control panel
  • 3 year warranty with the same shipping policies as for our other products (link)
[MFW-ICEamp-front]

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Custom 15" woofer:
  • 3" diameter, low inductance voice coil
  • High excursion, bottomless design - you never hear a clack
  • 43 lb net weight with massive motor structure
  • Custom optimized for the MFW-15 Turbo application
  • Manufactured in USA
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[Turbo-driver-2012-2]

The kit will also ship either with longer hardware and spacers to allow the original cover plate to clear the woofer, or you can purchase a new, black, cover panel which is CNC cut to clear the driver and replace the original.

The upgrade/kit options:

  • MK2 Amplifier only for stock driver - $430 + $20 shipping within lower 48 states, $25 savings each for multiples (one payment, one shipment, one customer)
  • $830 + $60 shipping (Lower 48) for kit with 1/2" spacers and longer screws

Additional FAQ:

Q1)  Should I get the MFW Mk2 amp or the complete Turbo Kit?

A)  At this time, I recommend anyone who puts value on the aesthetic look of your MFW-15, especially those with finishes other than satin black, to order the Mk2 amplifier upgrade.  The current Turbo driver has surround which is larger than the stock MFW driver.  This means the cover panel hits the outer edge of the surround and requires a 1/2" spacer behind the cover panel to fit.  While this functions just fine, it isn't as clean a look as I'd prefer.  By this summer I will have turbo woofers available which will fit within the original cover panel.  These woofers will not be any more expensive than the current Turbo woofers.  Here are two pictures of how the cover panel sits over the current woofer with the 1/2" spacers:
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Q2)  How can I order the Mk2 amplifier or Turbo kit?


A)  Please e-mail us to confirm the quantity of what kit you are ordering, your shipping address, and a contact phone number we can provide FedEx so we can send on the appropriate invoice.  We have settled on a flat rate shipping of $20 for the amplifiers and $40 for the woofers ($60 per Turbo Kit) within the lower 48 states.  

We e-mail invoices hosted by PayPal.  You can either pay with a PayPal account or if the invoice goes to an e-mail that is not tied to a PayPal account, you can select "pay without logging in" and pay with any major credit card (for orders less than $2000).  If those options don't work out for you or you prefer to process are card over the phone, simply give us a call at 773-290-8436 and Kelly or I can process your credit card over the phone after we have sent an invoice.  

Sending us an e-mail with the shipping and contact info is much quicker and more reliable than taking it down over the phone.
Mark Seaton
Seaton Sound, Inc.
sales@seatonsound.net
773-290-8436
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shotoons
Is this ICEpower amp better than the Dayton one supplied in the older Turbo Kit?
If I wanted to swap the Dayton for this one, what would be the cost with a trade-in,
or without a trade-in if you're not offering one?

Thanks,

Cliff
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Mark_Seaton

shotoons wrote:
Is this ICEpower amp better than the Dayton one supplied in the older Turbo Kit?
If I wanted to swap the Dayton for this one, what would be the cost with a trade-in,
or without a trade-in if you're not offering one?

Thanks,

Cliff


Hi Cliff,

This "700W" amplifier is a bit more long term power than the "1000W" Dayton amp.  The rack amp delivered better power with the modifications I had Kevin make than the plate amplifier version of the Dayton amplifier did.  In real use the power is similar with a little higher playback level with a 3 year warranty and more applicable features such as the LF EQ knob that shelves up/down the bottom end to help tailor the in-room response to your liking.  Many also really wanted an amplifier in the back of the subwoofer rather than external, which the much higher efficiency ICEpower module allows.  The new amplifier also saves the extensive component modification Kevin was performing on the stock Dayton amplifiers making this much more practical for us to offer directly vs having Kevin perform the modifications.

I had no plans for trade in options for the external amplifiers, as I wouldn't recommend it if yours is working well.  You would be much better served by adding more MFW-15 Turbo units IMO.  

Ordering an amplifier only would be $400.  I will be working up a DSP program to allow using the original MFW-15 driver with the new amplifier to those who may want to replace just the amplifier with the option of stepping up to the bigger woofer at a later date.  Programming the amplifier can only be done by us, so updating an amplifier for the Turbo driver programming would just require shipping the 5 lb amplifier back to us for reprogramming.

Mark Seaton
Seaton Sound, Inc.
sales@seatonsound.net
773-290-8436
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shotoons

One of mine blew a fuse so if that's all it is, then it should be still working.
It would be nice to have an all-in-one unit so I may be tempted to get the 
drop-in amp.

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Stereodude
This is pretty cool to see you're still supporting your AV123 step child after all these years. [cool]
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Mark_Seaton
Stereodude wrote:
This is pretty cool to see you're still supporting your AV123 step child after all these years. [cool]


Thanks Seth.  With the new programmable input/control section and the compact ICEpower modules that don't have the heat concerns of many cheaper designs, I felt it was a very nice package to rejuvenate an older box/design that still looks quite nice compared to many budget options on the market.  Remember the MFW-15 was a big part of the first push toward bigger drivers in affordable packages.  Look at just how many have followed suit.
Mark Seaton
Seaton Sound, Inc.
sales@seatonsound.net
773-290-8436
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rodw
I'm a little confused with all the options I've found on here and the AVS forum. I have 4 of the original MFW-15's. ALL of the amps are bad/humming. What are my options to get these back up and running, preferably at a minimal cost since I have to repair all 4 of them. I've considered running them with an external amp, but haven't found anything with the power to run all 4 at a reasonable price.
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Mark_Seaton
rodw wrote:
I'm a little confused with all the options I've found on here and the AVS forum. I have 4 of the original MFW-15's. ALL of the amps are bad/humming. What are my options to get these back up and running, preferably at a minimal cost since I have to repair all 4 of them. I've considered running them with an external amp, but haven't found anything with the power to run all 4 at a reasonable price.


Hi Rod,

The confusion comes as I'm being flexible in offering additional options I hadn't planned to accommodate situations like yours and many others.  I will have to make a separate post for the amplifier replacement option (which isn't the Turbo kit).  I have not yet posted as we had to dig out one of the few original MFW-15 drivers to load in a cabinet for testing and optimization.  We hope to make time for this later this coming week.

From my post above:
Mark_Seaton wrote:

Ordering an amplifier only would be $400.  I will be working up a DSP program to allow using the original MFW-15 driver with the new amplifier to those who may want to replace just the amplifier with the option of stepping up to the bigger woofer at a later date.  Programming the amplifier can only be done by us, so updating an amplifier for the Turbo driver programming would just require shipping the 5 lb amplifier back to us for reprogramming.



This means using the new amplifier as a replacement for the original will be $400 + shipping.  This will be a direct drop in and the least surgery needed for a fix.  The new amplifier and flexibility will make for a notable increase in sound quality and increased playback level without any foul noises.

[MFW-ICEamp-front] 

Mark Seaton
Seaton Sound, Inc.
sales@seatonsound.net
773-290-8436
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TwoFatPugs
Hi,

Is the driver the same as the 2nd batch of turbo kits?  I would like to add a 2nd turbo to my system and wanted to know how different they would sound.
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Mark_Seaton
TwoFatPugs wrote:
Hi,

Is the driver the same as the 2nd batch of turbo kits?  I would like to add a 2nd turbo to my system and wanted to know how different they would sound.


It depends what you are referring to as 2nd.  If it is the big driver shown above with the big, beveled back plate, then yes, it will sound the same.  If you are mixing with the original, outboard Turbo amplifiers it would be more ideal with some separation between them, not directly side-by-side as the DSP adds a slight bit of latency.  Of course others mix different subwoofers with more differences than this all the time.  If they are at opposite ends of a room or front and rear/side of the room, then it would work great, and probably still work just fine if all are on the front wall.
Mark Seaton
Seaton Sound, Inc.
sales@seatonsound.net
773-290-8436
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blake18
Where did the other thread go?
"Worrying does not take away tomorrow's troubles, it takes away today's peace"
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Mark_Seaton
blake18 wrote:
Where did the other thread go?


The threads on the 3 MFW solutions offered are all still here in this sub-forum.  The blemished SubMersive HP units are sold and that thread is locked, but they are all still here.
Mark Seaton
Seaton Sound, Inc.
sales@seatonsound.net
773-290-8436
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KlipschHead281
Mark,

I just emailed you, I had no clue this was out, I had to reset my forum password so I didn't look at this thread yet. All I can says DAYUM!!!

I'm going to call you now and see if it's possible to order these in time for delivery, maybe this week if I stop by to pick them up? Maybe, if possible? 

AVR/Blu-Ray - Marantz SR7009 (9.2.2) - Blu-Ray Oppo UDP 203 - Apple TV
Front Height Amplifier - 2 Marantz MA6100's
Speakers - Klipsch RF-82 - Center RC-64 - Front Wide 2 RP-160M, Front Height 2 RB-10
Rear Surround - Surround Back 2 RS-52, Surround 2 R-14M
Subs - Dual MFW15's (Seaton Sound ICE amplifiers, soon to be triple MFW's)
TV -Samsung 55" 8500
2CH - Klipsch "The Sixes" and 1 MFW15


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KlipschHead281
MFW died last night in a torrent of screeching.... let me know when you're ready Mark! [smile]

AVR/Blu-Ray - Marantz SR7009 (9.2.2) - Blu-Ray Oppo UDP 203 - Apple TV
Front Height Amplifier - 2 Marantz MA6100's
Speakers - Klipsch RF-82 - Center RC-64 - Front Wide 2 RP-160M, Front Height 2 RB-10
Rear Surround - Surround Back 2 RS-52, Surround 2 R-14M
Subs - Dual MFW15's (Seaton Sound ICE amplifiers, soon to be triple MFW's)
TV -Samsung 55" 8500
2CH - Klipsch "The Sixes" and 1 MFW15


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Mark_Seaton
We will be ready to take orders this coming week.
Mark Seaton
Seaton Sound, Inc.
sales@seatonsound.net
773-290-8436
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KlipschHead281
The other MFW must be paying attention, it croaked today... oy vey.

AVR/Blu-Ray - Marantz SR7009 (9.2.2) - Blu-Ray Oppo UDP 203 - Apple TV
Front Height Amplifier - 2 Marantz MA6100's
Speakers - Klipsch RF-82 - Center RC-64 - Front Wide 2 RP-160M, Front Height 2 RB-10
Rear Surround - Surround Back 2 RS-52, Surround 2 R-14M
Subs - Dual MFW15's (Seaton Sound ICE amplifiers, soon to be triple MFW's)
TV -Samsung 55" 8500
2CH - Klipsch "The Sixes" and 1 MFW15


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thebove
I'm very excited about this!  I've had a dead MFW-15 here for over a year now, and had the opportunity to pick up one of the original Turbo kits with the Dayton amp when mine first blew, but never pulled the trigger.


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KlipschHead281
Mark, for now it looks like amplifiers only configured for the MFW driver. [frown]

AVR/Blu-Ray - Marantz SR7009 (9.2.2) - Blu-Ray Oppo UDP 203 - Apple TV
Front Height Amplifier - 2 Marantz MA6100's
Speakers - Klipsch RF-82 - Center RC-64 - Front Wide 2 RP-160M, Front Height 2 RB-10
Rear Surround - Surround Back 2 RS-52, Surround 2 R-14M
Subs - Dual MFW15's (Seaton Sound ICE amplifiers, soon to be triple MFW's)
TV -Samsung 55" 8500
2CH - Klipsch "The Sixes" and 1 MFW15


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blake18
KlipschHead281 wrote:
Mark, for now it looks like amplifiers only configured for the MFW driver. [frown]


I'm a bit confused by this statement, do you mean they are not configured for the Turbo driver..?
"Worrying does not take away tomorrow's troubles, it takes away today's peace"
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KlipschHead281
Mark has two configurations, one with the new amplifier configured for the original MFW driver or, if you're buying the new driver AND amplifier he has the new ICE amplifier configured for the new upgraded driver so you can replace both the amp and driver.

If you buy the amp configured for the MFW driver and want to upgrade later to the bigger turbo driver he can re-configure the amp for the new driver.

I wanted to buy the new amp and driver together but the wife killed that one when I found out she went crazy with Christmas gifts so I can only afford the new amp... for now.

AVR/Blu-Ray - Marantz SR7009 (9.2.2) - Blu-Ray Oppo UDP 203 - Apple TV
Front Height Amplifier - 2 Marantz MA6100's
Speakers - Klipsch RF-82 - Center RC-64 - Front Wide 2 RP-160M, Front Height 2 RB-10
Rear Surround - Surround Back 2 RS-52, Surround 2 R-14M
Subs - Dual MFW15's (Seaton Sound ICE amplifiers, soon to be triple MFW's)
TV -Samsung 55" 8500
2CH - Klipsch "The Sixes" and 1 MFW15


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thebove
Mark, i just sent you an email.  Please let me know when these are available - I'm ready to buy.  Looking for the new amp + new driver.
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KlipschHead281
Hopefully we hear something this week, my V1 amps weren't worth the effort so both MFW's are being kept off. Amazingly, the RF-82's set to large in the AVR sound impressive in my living room, nice bottom end.

AVR/Blu-Ray - Marantz SR7009 (9.2.2) - Blu-Ray Oppo UDP 203 - Apple TV
Front Height Amplifier - 2 Marantz MA6100's
Speakers - Klipsch RF-82 - Center RC-64 - Front Wide 2 RP-160M, Front Height 2 RB-10
Rear Surround - Surround Back 2 RS-52, Surround 2 R-14M
Subs - Dual MFW15's (Seaton Sound ICE amplifiers, soon to be triple MFW's)
TV -Samsung 55" 8500
2CH - Klipsch "The Sixes" and 1 MFW15


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Mark_Seaton
We will be setting up for a final listening session to get both the Turbo driver and original driver DSP settings dialed in today.  We'll be able to start shipping amplifiers out very soon.  We are behind on getting out invoices, but will start working through those today and tomorrow.
Mark Seaton
Seaton Sound, Inc.
sales@seatonsound.net
773-290-8436
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KlipschHead281
Chomping at the bit.... [smile]

AVR/Blu-Ray - Marantz SR7009 (9.2.2) - Blu-Ray Oppo UDP 203 - Apple TV
Front Height Amplifier - 2 Marantz MA6100's
Speakers - Klipsch RF-82 - Center RC-64 - Front Wide 2 RP-160M, Front Height 2 RB-10
Rear Surround - Surround Back 2 RS-52, Surround 2 R-14M
Subs - Dual MFW15's (Seaton Sound ICE amplifiers, soon to be triple MFW's)
TV -Samsung 55" 8500
2CH - Klipsch "The Sixes" and 1 MFW15


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KlipschHead281
Mark,

This image will fix your blurry Avatar. [smile]
seaton-sound1-360x240.jpg
 

AVR/Blu-Ray - Marantz SR7009 (9.2.2) - Blu-Ray Oppo UDP 203 - Apple TV
Front Height Amplifier - 2 Marantz MA6100's
Speakers - Klipsch RF-82 - Center RC-64 - Front Wide 2 RP-160M, Front Height 2 RB-10
Rear Surround - Surround Back 2 RS-52, Surround 2 R-14M
Subs - Dual MFW15's (Seaton Sound ICE amplifiers, soon to be triple MFW's)
TV -Samsung 55" 8500
2CH - Klipsch "The Sixes" and 1 MFW15


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