sandbagger
I will update this post as I release more information and is RELEASED!!!!

Kit price is $750.00 and shipping should be under $50 just about anywhere, although shipping weight is 73lbs.

Due to a more expensive driver and other cost increases I have had to raise the prices a bit.  With my profit margin on these there is no way I could not do this, I am not making 50% like the big players.  Also shipping has increased in the last few years and while many will be under the $50 price I have found that AZ and west will probably be a bit more than that, but I only charge actual shipping.

The Kits are now $795.00


Please email orders@motorcitycustomaudio.com to be placed on a list so as kits become available I can contact you. 

As the drivers are hand made in the USA in small batches I am also asking anyone with duals or more if they would initially be ok with 1 kit, as I get more drivers in I will pull a few for those with duals while getting new customers their initial kit.

Any one ordering a kit is also eligible to purchase the 5.1 Audio Tool Kit for $50.00 and anyone ordering Duals or more is eligible to purchase any LCR(non sub) Seaton Sound Product at Family pricing in the future.  This was discussed here http://www.seaton-sound-forum.com/post/show_single_post?pid=40284341&postcount=294

The TURBO Kit is an upgrade for the MFW-15 and will consists of the following:

15" custom high quality driver, Black Aluminum cone and basket hand built in America.

A new 1000W amp that is well respected and robust( bullet proof).  It will be properly customized to matched to the characteristics of the driver and cabinet for optimum output and response and amp limiting.  This 1000W class AB amp can either be paced on a rack, on top of the sub or rack mountable via supplied rack ears(2RU).  Single point parametric EQ, auto on or 12v triggered on.

2 block off plates to replace the adjustment plate and plate amp while providing connection for the outboard amp.  The lower plate also has speaker connectors with wire already connected.

Warranty is 1yr driver and amp.

Kevin
Motor City Custom Audio
http://motorcitycustomaudio.com/
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k_t
Looking forward to this one. Is the outboard amp going to be rack mount?  Will it have parametric eq?
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Stereodude
My understanding is that it will be rack mountable, and has a single band parametric EQ, but things may have changed since I last talked to Kevin.
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Mark_Seaton
k_t wrote:
Looking forward to this one. Is the outboard amp going to be rack mount?  Will it have parametric eq?


Hi k_t,

Yes, it's an outboard 1000W amplifier (comes with optional rack ears), and an entirely new 15" driver I sourced for this.  It uses a different, but related (cosmetically the same) driver to the UFW Big Block upgrade.  The amplifier is readily available, but we modify the response and limiting significantly (similar to what we do in the UFW Big Block kit) to make for the type of match and composure I prefer to deliver in a finished product.
Mark Seaton
Seaton Sound, Inc.
sales@seatonsound.net
773-290-8436
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sandbagger
updated info about the turbo kit
Kevin
Motor City Custom Audio
http://motorcitycustomaudio.com/
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nanok

Have any pricing details, or ETA for the kit been announced? Will the new amp/driver combo just allow for more headroom in a calibrated system, or do you forsee additional sonic benefits/lower fr?

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k_t
Thanks for the updates sandbagger and Mark.  One other question about the amps - do they have fans, and if so how loud are they?





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Stereodude
nanok wrote:
Have any pricing details, or ETA for the kit been announced? Will the new amp/driver combo just allow for more headroom in a calibrated system, or do you forsee additional sonic benefits/lower fr?

You should get more output, an improved low end response (lower F3), and improved transient response.

k_t wrote:
Thanks for the updates sandbagger and Mark.  One other question about the amps - do they have fans, and if so how loud are they?

No fans.
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k_t
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No fans.


Good.  Thanks!

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sandbagger
Right now I don't want to speak too much as what it will or wont do since I have not spent much time working on it.  I spent a few hrs the night before leaving for Craigs GTG, right now I am out in Grand Junction Colorado, so I haven't been around to do further testing.

I will say from what I have heard(not measured) that it plays much louder, should have much more headroom  and the transients sound much tighter/ much more responsive.  There are a few things I am looking at doing to get it to play a bit deeper, but again I am hesitant to say much more than that right now.

The outboard amp has no fans so no fan noise

I need to get a few costs nailed down before talking price, it will be more expensive than the BigBlock kit due to the new amp.

As for an ETA, I would say not till after the first of the year due to drivers, probably the end of January would be a safe guess

I plan on spending a bunch of time next week on nailing things down and will post up more info as I get it.



Kevin
Motor City Custom Audio
http://motorcitycustomaudio.com/
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Josh
Hi Kevin,

Will you be offering the amp and woofer as stand alone options? or will this have to be a kit?

I know my wallet is currently being raped and pillaged by the holiday season,and wouldn't be able to afford the package for two MFW's, but if one could buy the woofer, would there be any benefit running the stock MFW amp?

Thanks.

Josh

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sandbagger
You really want to keep the amp

To be honest there would be very little if any gain by changing out just the driver.  The upgraded amp is a 1000W amp and the stock one is 350w

Josh wrote:
Hi Kevin,

Will you be offering the amp and woofer as stand alone options? or will this have to be a kit?

I know my wallet is currently being raped and pillaged by the holiday season,and wouldn't be able to afford the package for two MFW's, but if one could buy the woofer, would there be any benefit running the stock MFW amp?

Thanks.

Josh

Kevin
Motor City Custom Audio
http://motorcitycustomaudio.com/
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bsoko
I just bought two to the MFW-15's and will be looking forward to the diff between the current and the updated. At least we will have some place to go if the current craps out on us.

Bill
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Josh
I'd prefer not to keep the amp, but.....the cost of two upgrade kits would put me over half way to the purchase of a Submersive.
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JimP

Is it presumed that the replacement amp from the new supplier is also not of good design?   That would explain a lot.

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Josh
The QSC amps (replacements) are good from what I have heard, but I guess only time will tell.
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bsoko
I would assume that the amps are good. However, Mark has designed replacement parts for another AV123 sub that he designed and I would assume that he felt that he could get more out of it.

Bill
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Stereodude
Josh wrote:
The QSC amps (replacements) are good from what I have heard, but I guess only time will tell.

Just so you know, they're not amps made by QSC Audio Products, LLC (the famous pro audio company).  They're an AV123 / Doug Goldberg designed amp, whereas the previous one was the Chinese OEM's design with some input & testing from Doug.  Anyhow, the old design was reworked and now they are made in the USA instead of China by a small contract manufacturing company in Colorado called QSC Systems.
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DTMIKE

Cannot wait to see posted test results for this upgrade. And I thought my dual stacked combo is insane! Looks like I will be upgrading again.

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Mark_Seaton
JimP wrote:
Is it presumed that the replacement amp from the new supplier is also not of good design?   That would explain a lot.


Not really. It was more an issues of the current amp not allowing for the across the board performance gains we were looking to achieve with this aftermarket upgrade. The amplifier we chose also has a much wider set of adjustments "under the hood" than the stock amp allowing for a more ideal and even better sounding end result.
Mark Seaton
Seaton Sound, Inc.
sales@seatonsound.net
773-290-8436
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Mark_Seaton
Stereodude wrote:
Josh wrote:
The QSC amps (replacements) are good from what I have heard, but I guess only time will tell.
Just so you know, they're not amps made by QSC Audio Products, LLC (the famous pro audio company).  They're still an AV123 / Doug Goldberg designed amp (just like the bad amps).  The old design was reworked and now they are made in the USA instead of China by a small contract manufacturing company in Colorado called QSC Systems .


Just for accuracy, the originally shipped amps used a desing from the OEM, not one designed by Doug. Doug was asked to test & advise on the original amp, but the design was definitely not "his".
Mark Seaton
Seaton Sound, Inc.
sales@seatonsound.net
773-290-8436
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Mark_Seaton
Josh wrote:
I'd prefer not to keep the amp, but.....the cost of two upgrade kits would put me over half way to the purchase of a Submersive.


Hi Josh,

The issue is more a matter of how much of an upgrade we can do within the confines of the original amp.  In short, we could make it incrementally better, but our thought was that if you're going to open up the sub, change parts and void the original warranty, let's make it well worth the effort with an amp we know ourselves and offer the performance of 1.5-2.5 MFW-15s from the same box many owners have already been granted approval of by their significant other.
Mark Seaton
Seaton Sound, Inc.
sales@seatonsound.net
773-290-8436
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bsoko
Then if you had 2 MFW's and wanted to upgrade, you would get 3 to 5 MFW's for the price of upgrading of the two. If that is the case, then I would do the upgrade!

Bill
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mojave
I have dual MFW-15's and am also interested in this upgrade. Mine are from the original batch and still have the original amps and drivers. I've only had to back off the volume on War of the Worlds. Otherwise, they have performed admirably. More output is always fun, though, and especially if there is an improvement in sound quality. Now I need to figure out where to hide the amplifiers.
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Stereodude
Mark_Seaton wrote:
Just for accuracy, the originally shipped amps used a design from the OEM, not one designed by Doug. Doug was asked to test & advise on the original amp, but the design was definitely not "his".

I didn't realize that.  I've edited my original post for accuracy.
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