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GregBe wrote:
Sandbagger...obviously I don't expect any promises, but what would guess the odds are that you will have something like this, and if so, is your pricepoint a pretty solid guess, and if it does come about, how quickly would you think you would have them available?

Thanks!!!
Greg


Greg, I edited the first post to be a little more clear on the intent and timeline..... Right now things are way to early to give anything more than an educated guess...
The last thing I will do, is promise a date and then not deliver.
Kevin
Motor City Custom Audio
http://motorcitycustomaudio.com/
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GregBe

sandbagger wrote:
GregBe wrote:
Sandbagger...obviously I don't expect any promises, but what would guess the odds are that you will have something like this, and if so, is your pricepoint a pretty solid guess, and if it does come about, how quickly would you think you would have them available?

Thanks!!!
Greg


Greg, I edited the first post to be a little more clear on the intent and timeline..... Right now things are way to early to give anything more than an educated guess...
The last thing I will do, is promise a date and then not deliver.

Thanks Kevin...I will keep an eye on this.
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crazyeddie
Kevin,
Thanks for the quick reply, I'll be watching to see how this progresses, and hopefully saving up some money in the mean time. It's good to know there will be option(s) available !
    Thanks,
    Ed

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Htaudio
Hey all,

Just joined this site as I heard that there may be some possible fixes for the MFW-15. I would be interested in the new amp.
My wife just bought me a MFW-15 for my B-day, however, the sub did not come with an amp. The origanl owner sent it in about 2 months ago and now with 123 closed it looks like I'm up the creek without a paddel as they say.

Thx,
Greg
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g0bl0k
 I might be interested...I'll be watching the update on this....
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xman

With all the issues the MFM-15 AMP has, I would like one.

Thanks

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Kevin_R
Kevin,

I'd be interested too. Do you or Seaton have the funds to purchase some of the boxes that will be at auction? I'm almost thinking about buying the enclosures and then working with you to either get new amps or sell them outright with the Hot Rod upgrades. 

Kevin
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Mark_Seaton
Kevin_R wrote:
Kevin,

I'd be interested too. Do you or Seaton have the funds to purchase some of the boxes that will be at auction? I'm almost thinking about buying the enclosures and then working with you to either get new amps or sell them outright with the Hot Rod upgrades. 

Kevin


It's possible, but given the amount of work most of the cabinets would need they would have to be very cheap to justify shipping and the space to store them (I've been quickly filling my warehouse with my own product).  Kevin and I did grab some of the last of the UFW-12 cabinets which were at AV123 before they closed.  Even there the condition was less than what was claimed.  Those "unfinished" cabinets all have unpainted faces, and you would then also have to get the face plates or have them made.  I can't tell if those are even clear coated yet.  It appears they are just naked veneer.  Paying someone to paint them costs money, and I'll have to see if it makes any sense to do.  If someone doesn't mind masking things off and doing some finishing work, they could be a great deal for someone to then load a replacement or Turbo kit and have a nice sub for reasonable money.  Paying someone else to do that work becomes very cost prohibitive.
Mark Seaton
Seaton Sound, Inc.
sales@seatonsound.net
773-290-8436
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dps
My MFW-15 failed last night- loud buzzing when plugged in even without a source.  Unbelievable timing...
I'd love the 500w in-cabinet replacement.  Would buy tomorrow!
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Kevin_R
That's the thing is how much they'll go for. I'm debating about driving up with a Penske truck and bringing them back here. It's pretty much just a day trip for me. I'd probably buy the moho cabinets, the faceplate lot, the boxes already finished with drivers (possibly sell the drivers and just use the HR upgrade until Kevin has a more concrete answer on the amps) . Not too worried about the clear coat because I've got a good buddy that will let me use his paint booth. That said, not sure if Kevin would be able to support all of that because I'd be leaning on him for the HR's. I've got to run some run numbers to see if it's cost effective to begin with but it's just an idea. Wouldn't be looking to make a huge amount of money but enough to fund my own purchases without the wife complaining too much. Like buying all of the moho LS6 enclosures and getting a couple of submersives. I think 7.1 of LS6's and a couple of those would mean no upgrading for quite some time..



Mark_Seaton wrote:
Kevin_R wrote:
Kevin,

I'd be interested too. Do you or Seaton have the funds to purchase some of the boxes that will be at auction? I'm almost thinking about buying the enclosures and then working with you to either get new amps or sell them outright with the Hot Rod upgrades. 

Kevin


It's possible, but given the amount of work most of the cabinets would need they would have to be very cheap to justify shipping and the space to store them (I've been quickly filling my warehouse with my own product).  Kevin and I did grab some of the last of the UFW-12 cabinets which were at AV123 before they closed.  Even there the condition was less than what was claimed.  Those "unfinished" cabinets all have unpainted faces, and you would then also have to get the face plates or have them made.  I can't tell if those are even clear coated yet.  It appears they are just naked veneer.  Paying someone to paint them costs money, and I'll have to see if it makes any sense to do.  If someone doesn't mind masking things off and doing some finishing work, they could be a great deal for someone to then load a replacement or Turbo kit and have a nice sub for reasonable money.  Paying someone else to do that work becomes very cost prohibitive.
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Josh
KevinR,

Just be sure not to be too disappointed if the cabinets are beat to hell. God only knows the actual condition and the funds needed (as Mark mentioned) to correct any issues.

The pictures just don't allow one to see the *actual* condition.

If you have a free day to blow, then more power to ya'
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Kevin_R
That's the thing. I don't start my new contract for a couple of weeks and I'm just sitting around the house watching TV and surfing the web. If I could get 12 enclosures for around a grand (and have to put a little work into them like sanding or finishing) I think I might stay in the green but not sure how much I'd sell them with the HR upgrade complete. I am thinking about just flying up, checking stuff out, getting a room and then renting a Penske to come home. That is IF they are in decent condition. Obviously, I'd have to do A, B, C stock type of thing and adjust prices accordingly. Plus I'd be helping Mark and Danny get some funds back which is why I'd be doing it the first place. The karma would come back around one day I'm sure. 

Josh wrote:
KevinR,

Just be sure not to be too disappointed if the cabinets are beat to hell. God only knows the actual condition and the funds needed (as Mark mentioned) to correct any issues.

The pictures just don't allow one to see the *actual* condition.

If you have a free day to blow, then more power to ya'
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Timeless_Tech
Chalk up another one whose MFW-15 developed a buzz right before you-know-who turned out the lights. At least I hadn't sent mine in. Among their other problems, IMO they knew/deciphered what part is failing on the V2 amps (no doubt, the V1's as well) and figured they couldn't afford another round of warranty replacements. They're a great example of the common wisdom about the value of a warranty.

Considering the almost universally common symptom, all the recent failures coming to light really supports the concept of an engineered life span, whatever the failing component--one that no doubt saved someone a few pennies on the acquisition, but cost everyone else much, much more, by many orders of magnitude.

All factors considered, I have little faith in the yet-to-be-announced remedy currently alluded to on their home page, and with yet another of their replacement amps (V3 or beyond) I'd be constantly worrying whether it too would fail. With more than a couple decades of experience, I'm perfectly capable of repairing/replacing electronic components, but I absolutely detest doing it over and over instead of getting it right the first time.

The turbo option also sounds interesting, but is probably serious overkill for my space. I'm looking forward to seeing more about your alternative for the stock amp, and hoping it's available RSN. Whether it's been music or movies, audio just hasn't been the same since dropping back to 5.0.
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skifaster

I've had around 4-5 amps from av123 in my mfw.  Last one sent back about a month ago.  woudl like the turbo option, but dont have the $.  I would buy the 500 watt option in the 225-250 range,  thanks

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gnbaron
Sandbagger, I am interested in what you can provide for an amp.  Unfortnatelly, I sent in my amp on Aug 3rd and it was received by Schifter on Aug. 6th.  So, when I went online last week to call and see what the status of my amp getting "fixed" I see they closed up shop.  So, now my sub is useless without the amp.  I will check back often...

Thanks.
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boober
Well now I am definitely interested in at least 1 amp. I had voted for 4. 1 of my amps started emitting smoke about an hour ago or so.

I still can't believe no one else has voted for wanting 4 amps.

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boober
What about a replacement that is not a plate? Say an external amp? Maybe a 2 channel pro audio modified amp? I dunno, I'm just trying to keep my costs low since I have 4 MFW's... 
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paw
I'm a maybe. I'd like to go Turbo but the funds are an issue. The replacement is way cheaper.

Kevin (Sandbagger)
will the existing controller box be utilized by the new, drop in amp?
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KlipschHead281

I'd be interested as well, I have been through so many amps I can't see the ones I have currently lasting much into next year. Wait, one has been fine, make the the 2nd MFW I have that has been through a lot of them, either way I'll be replacing both.

AVR/Blu-Ray - Marantz SR7009 (9.2.2) - Blu-Ray Oppo UDP 203 - Apple TV
Front Height Amplifier - 2 Marantz MA6100's
Speakers - Klipsch RF-82 - Center RC-64 - Front Wide 2 RP-160M, Front Height 2 RB-10
Rear Surround - Surround Back 2 RS-52, Surround 2 R-14M
Subs - Dual MFW15's (Seaton Sound ICE amplifiers, soon to be triple MFW's)
TV -Samsung 55" 8500
2CH - Klipsch "The Sixes" and 1 MFW15


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sandbagger
On using the orig controller, I would say without a doubt NO

Not only was it a source of many of the HUM HUM HUM problems, it would increase costs, much easier to integrate the phase, level xover etc onto the single board.


paw wrote:
I'm a maybe. I'd like to go Turbo but the funds are an issue. The replacement is way cheaper.

Kevin (Sandbagger)
will the existing controller box be utilized by the new, drop in amp?
Kevin
Motor City Custom Audio
http://motorcitycustomaudio.com/
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gnbaron
So how far off are we from being able to get a useable product to buy?

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sandbagger
KEY WORD " USABLE"

Like the sign on my cube at my 9-5 day job, you can have it FAST,CHEAP,or RIGHT, pick one....... I think everyone here wants RIGHT

It isnt going to be this month, short of that it would be a WAG if I through anything out there.

As soon as I get a feel for how long it will be, I will let everyone know.

gnbaron wrote:
So how far off are we from being able to get a useable product to buy?

Kevin
Motor City Custom Audio
http://motorcitycustomaudio.com/
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Timeless_Tech
Expect demand to increase. They changed the wording on what's left of the site and (not surprisingly) there's no free MFW-15 amplifier remedy under any warranty. The new wording is

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For those of you interested in purchasing an MFW-15 amplifier please contact simply[_edited_]@msn.com for more information.

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sandbagger
I can only imagine what those are and how long they will last

Timeless_Tech wrote:
Expect demand to increase. They changed the wording on what's left of the site and (not surprisingly) there's no free MFW-15 amplifier remedy under any warranty. The new wording is

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For those of you interested in purchasing an MFW-15 amplifier please contact simply[_edited_]@msn.com for more information.

Kevin
Motor City Custom Audio
http://motorcitycustomaudio.com/
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Timeless_Tech
Lets see. Which way will the scale tilt when an MFW-15 owner considers whether to purchase from someone who:

A) by all references and appearances is both knowledgeable and trustworthy, although progressing toward a better replacement a bit more slowly than pent-up demand is building?

~~~  OR  ~~~

B) an unknown individual (unless it's one of the former company principals) via nothing but an email address, a so-called MFW-15 amp of unknown origin, performance, and build quality recommended by an untrustworthy individual or his representative?


Without a functioning MFW, I have no BOOM, so I'm patiently waiting for Option A, although chompin' at the bit while I wait. We all like to have a life outside of our daily routine, but whatever "extra" effort you can put into finalizing this design ASAP will be greatly appreciated, Kevin.

EDIT: No change in opinion, but the actual B option email address appears to belong to a Longmont resident. Perhaps others know him better than I do.
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