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 How many amps would you PURCHASE at this pricepoint
 1 amp ( I only need a little rumble) 57 60%
 2 amps ( I like to go boom) 29 30%
 3 amps ( I like my neigbors to hear me go boom) 5 5%
 4 amps ( I am a base head and can never get enough) 3 3%
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Redshift

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Sent my amp back a week ago and it appears to have been refused, but now I see why.  Got a letter in today's mail from a lawyer asking if I had a claim against AV123....

So I'd probably be in for one of these replacements if it would be reliable.  I'm on my FOURTH MFW-15 amp so I'm not really eager to keep screwing around with this thing but I will give it ONE more shot as long as it has a long warranty and is guaranteed to work or my money back including two way shipping

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I own 2 MFW's, and as far as I know 1 has the V1 amp, & the other has the V2. Although neither has failed YET, I'm guessing my luck will not hold out forever !
 I would love to possibly get the turbo upgrade for 1 of them, just don't have the scratch available right now. But I would also be interested in a drop fit replacement for the stock amp, as a reasonably priced option to keep from having a large paperweight in the future. Seeing as those of us who bought them are now without warranty support, I'm sure a whole lot of others would be as well, and I think it's great that you and Mark are trying to give us some great options over that paperweight version. I'm also wondering what will the warranty period be for either the turbo upgrade kit, or the (possible proposed) drop fit consist of ?
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What's this turbo upgrade you are talking about, crazyeddie?
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What's this turbo upgrade you are talking about, crazyeddie?


The Turbo info is here.

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I'm also wondering what will the warranty period be for either the turbo upgrade kit, or the (possible proposed) drop fit consist of ?

Warranty on the amp is 1yr and 3yrs on the driver for the Turbo Kit.  As for the drop in replacement for the stock amp, I have no idea yet.

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Thanks.  Drop in replacement for me please!
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Sandbagger...obviously I don't expect any promises, but what would guess the odds are that you will have something like this, and if so, is your pricepoint a pretty solid guess, and if it does come about, how quickly would you think you would have them available?

Thanks!!!
Greg


Greg, I edited the first post to be a little more clear on the intent and timeline..... Right now things are way to early to give anything more than an educated guess...
The last thing I will do, is promise a date and then not deliver.

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Sandbagger...obviously I don't expect any promises, but what would guess the odds are that you will have something like this, and if so, is your pricepoint a pretty solid guess, and if it does come about, how quickly would you think you would have them available?

Thanks!!!
Greg


Greg, I edited the first post to be a little more clear on the intent and timeline..... Right now things are way to early to give anything more than an educated guess...
The last thing I will do, is promise a date and then not deliver.

Thanks Kevin...I will keep an eye on this.
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Kevin,
Thanks for the quick reply, I'll be watching to see how this progresses, and hopefully saving up some money in the mean time. It's good to know there will be option(s) available !
    Thanks,
    Ed

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Hey all,

Just joined this site as I heard that there may be some possible fixes for the MFW-15. I would be interested in the new amp.
My wife just bought me a MFW-15 for my B-day, however, the sub did not come with an amp. The origanl owner sent it in about 2 months ago and now with 123 closed it looks like I'm up the creek without a paddel as they say.

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Greg
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 I might be interested...I'll be watching the update on this....
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With all the issues the MFM-15 AMP has, I would like one.

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Kevin_R

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Kevin,

I'd be interested too. Do you or Seaton have the funds to purchase some of the boxes that will be at auction? I'm almost thinking about buying the enclosures and then working with you to either get new amps or sell them outright with the Hot Rod upgrades. 

Kevin
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Kevin,

I'd be interested too. Do you or Seaton have the funds to purchase some of the boxes that will be at auction? I'm almost thinking about buying the enclosures and then working with you to either get new amps or sell them outright with the Hot Rod upgrades. 

Kevin


It's possible, but given the amount of work most of the cabinets would need they would have to be very cheap to justify shipping and the space to store them (I've been quickly filling my warehouse with my own product).  Kevin and I did grab some of the last of the UFW-12 cabinets which were at AV123 before they closed.  Even there the condition was less than what was claimed.  Those "unfinished" cabinets all have unpainted faces, and you would then also have to get the face plates or have them made.  I can't tell if those are even clear coated yet.  It appears they are just naked veneer.  Paying someone to paint them costs money, and I'll have to see if it makes any sense to do.  If someone doesn't mind masking things off and doing some finishing work, they could be a great deal for someone to then load a replacement or Turbo kit and have a nice sub for reasonable money.  Paying someone else to do that work becomes very cost prohibitive.

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My MFW-15 failed last night- loud buzzing when plugged in even without a source.  Unbelievable timing...
I'd love the 500w in-cabinet replacement.  Would buy tomorrow!
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That's the thing is how much they'll go for. I'm debating about driving up with a Penske truck and bringing them back here. It's pretty much just a day trip for me. I'd probably buy the moho cabinets, the faceplate lot, the boxes already finished with drivers (possibly sell the drivers and just use the HR upgrade until Kevin has a more concrete answer on the amps) . Not too worried about the clear coat because I've got a good buddy that will let me use his paint booth. That said, not sure if Kevin would be able to support all of that because I'd be leaning on him for the HR's. I've got to run some run numbers to see if it's cost effective to begin with but it's just an idea. Wouldn't be looking to make a huge amount of money but enough to fund my own purchases without the wife complaining too much. Like buying all of the moho LS6 enclosures and getting a couple of submersives. I think 7.1 of LS6's and a couple of those would mean no upgrading for quite some time..



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Kevin,

I'd be interested too. Do you or Seaton have the funds to purchase some of the boxes that will be at auction? I'm almost thinking about buying the enclosures and then working with you to either get new amps or sell them outright with the Hot Rod upgrades. 

Kevin


It's possible, but given the amount of work most of the cabinets would need they would have to be very cheap to justify shipping and the space to store them (I've been quickly filling my warehouse with my own product).  Kevin and I did grab some of the last of the UFW-12 cabinets which were at AV123 before they closed.  Even there the condition was less than what was claimed.  Those "unfinished" cabinets all have unpainted faces, and you would then also have to get the face plates or have them made.  I can't tell if those are even clear coated yet.  It appears they are just naked veneer.  Paying someone to paint them costs money, and I'll have to see if it makes any sense to do.  If someone doesn't mind masking things off and doing some finishing work, they could be a great deal for someone to then load a replacement or Turbo kit and have a nice sub for reasonable money.  Paying someone else to do that work becomes very cost prohibitive.
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KevinR,

Just be sure not to be too disappointed if the cabinets are beat to hell. God only knows the actual condition and the funds needed (as Mark mentioned) to correct any issues.

The pictures just don't allow one to see the *actual* condition.

If you have a free day to blow, then more power to ya'
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That's the thing. I don't start my new contract for a couple of weeks and I'm just sitting around the house watching TV and surfing the web. If I could get 12 enclosures for around a grand (and have to put a little work into them like sanding or finishing) I think I might stay in the green but not sure how much I'd sell them with the HR upgrade complete. I am thinking about just flying up, checking stuff out, getting a room and then renting a Penske to come home. That is IF they are in decent condition. Obviously, I'd have to do A, B, C stock type of thing and adjust prices accordingly. Plus I'd be helping Mark and Danny get some funds back which is why I'd be doing it the first place. The karma would come back around one day I'm sure. 

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KevinR,

Just be sure not to be too disappointed if the cabinets are beat to hell. God only knows the actual condition and the funds needed (as Mark mentioned) to correct any issues.

The pictures just don't allow one to see the *actual* condition.

If you have a free day to blow, then more power to ya'
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Chalk up another one whose MFW-15 developed a buzz right before you-know-who turned out the lights. At least I hadn't sent mine in. Among their other problems, IMO they knew/deciphered what part is failing on the V2 amps (no doubt, the V1's as well) and figured they couldn't afford another round of warranty replacements. They're a great example of the common wisdom about the value of a warranty.

Considering the almost universally common symptom, all the recent failures coming to light really supports the concept of an engineered life span, whatever the failing component--one that no doubt saved someone a few pennies on the acquisition, but cost everyone else much, much more, by many orders of magnitude.

All factors considered, I have little faith in the yet-to-be-announced remedy currently alluded to on their home page, and with yet another of their replacement amps (V3 or beyond) I'd be constantly worrying whether it too would fail. With more than a couple decades of experience, I'm perfectly capable of repairing/replacing electronic components, but I absolutely detest doing it over and over instead of getting it right the first time.

The turbo option also sounds interesting, but is probably serious overkill for my space. I'm looking forward to seeing more about your alternative for the stock amp, and hoping it's available RSN. Whether it's been music or movies, audio just hasn't been the same since dropping back to 5.0.
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I've had around 4-5 amps from av123 in my mfw.  Last one sent back about a month ago.  woudl like the turbo option, but dont have the $.  I would buy the 500 watt option in the 225-250 range,  thanks

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Sandbagger, I am interested in what you can provide for an amp.  Unfortnatelly, I sent in my amp on Aug 3rd and it was received by Schifter on Aug. 6th.  So, when I went online last week to call and see what the status of my amp getting "fixed" I see they closed up shop.  So, now my sub is useless without the amp.  I will check back often...

Thanks.
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