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Lead times last updated 3/30/17 @ 8pm CST

I will be keeping this first post up to date with current information and availability.  Products with unknown availability will not be detailed in this thread.  Some designs listed as special order or long lead will move toward regular availability at some time in the future.  Please email sales@seatonsound.net or call 773-290-8436 to order or verify shipping costs.  A zip code is required for a shipping quote within the US and full street address is preferred for accurate shipping quotes to Canada and other international destinations.

Please note all lead times and updates are for new orders which have not yet been processed or paid for.  Any lead time changes for customers with orders already in the queue will be handled directly via e-mail.

The following are currently available products:
All new items carry a newly updated 5 year warranty from manufacture defect from the time of receipt of the product unless noted otherwise.  Warranty is fully transferable with the current owner supplying us with the new owner's name, e-mail, and postal code.

Please see the recent announcement of our new SubMersive HP+ & F2+ options here on our forum, international versions available as well!

The veneer and stain options are the same for all of our product offerings.  You can find example photos of the finishes on various products in this thread.  Lead times indicated with * indicated limited inventory of 4 or fewer units.  "In Stock" items ship within 1-2 business days of ordering.

  • SubMersive HP+ Subwoofer -  (See availability of finishes below)
    • Dual opposed, 15" sealed subwoofer
    • New HT-style controls with XLR/RCA input, 12V Trigger, Auto ON/OFF, and IEC power cord (read more here)
    • 4000W/2400W high efficiency amplifier - fully produced in the US.
    • *Capable of driving a passive, slave cabinet to the same levels as another SubMersive HP*
    • DSP optimized response (manufacturer only)
    • 120V OPERATION ONLY
    • $2,395 + shipping (typ. $70-105 ground shiping cost)
    • $100 savings when purchasing multiple powered SubMersives or adding more powered units to your collection
    • $100 credit available if a 2nd unit is added within 60 days of receiving your 1st SubMersive
    • Dimensions: 24.25" W x 17.5" D x 25.5" H (Link to PDF) (including feet & grills)
    • Weight: 124 lbs 
    • Packed for shipping: 28" W x 22" D x 30" H, 134 lbs
    • Black Maple and Black Oak standard price finish options
    • Real wood veneer options with magnetic grills (Link to Photos)
      • Black Oak veneer - standard price (2 weeks)
      • Black Maple veneer -standard price (In Stock)
      • Maple veneer - +$100 (3 weeks)
      • Espresso stained cherry veneer + $200 (3 weeks)
      • Red stained cherry veneer + $200 (3 weeks)
      • Vintage cherry veneer + $200 (In Stock)*
      • Rosenut (red stained walnut veneer) +$200 (In Stock)
  • SubMersive F2+ Subwoofer +$200 over SubMersive HP (See availability of finishes below)
    • Front Firing, dual 15" sealed subwoofer
    • New HT-style controls with XLR/RCA input, 12V Trigger, Auto ON/OFF, and IEC power cord (read more here)
    • 4000W/2400W high efficiency amplifier - fully produced in the US.
    • *Capable of driving a passive, slave cabinet to the same levels as another SubMersive HP*
    • DSP Controlled (manufacturer only)
    • 120V OPERATION ONLY
    • $2,595 + shipping (typ. $80-110 ground shiping cost)
    • $100 savings when purchasing multiple powered SubMersives or adding more to your collection
    • $100 credit available if a 2nd unit is added within 60 days of receiving your 1st SubMersive
    • Dimensions: 20" W x 15.625" D x 35.75" H (Link to PDF) (including feet & grills)
    • Left/Right side blank plates can allow side amplifier locations (customizations available).
    • Weight: 125 lbs 
    • Packed for shipping: 24.25" W x 20" D x 40" H, 141 lbs
    • Black Maple and Black Oak standard price finish options
    • Real wood veneer options with magnetic grills (Link to Photos)
      • Black Oak veneer - standard price (3 weeks)
      • Black Maple veneer -standard price (In Stock)
      • Maple veneer - +$100 (3 weeks)
      • Espresso stained cherry veneer + $200 (In Stock)*
      • Red stained cherry veneer + $200 (3 weeks
      • Vintage cherry veneer + $200 (3 weeks)
      • Rosenut (red stained walnut veneer) +$200 (3 weeks)
  • SubMersive HP-Slave Subwoofer -  (same availability as HP+)
    • Dual opposed, 15" sealed subwoofer
    • SpeakON connection to SubMersive HP+/HPi+ amplifier only
    • SpeakON 4 conductor cable sold separately in build-to-order lengths by Seaton Sound or available to order here at Markertek.
    • $1195 each + shipping and veneer premiums (lead time and premiums the same as HP+ above)
  • SubMersive F2-Slave Subwoofer - (same availability as F2+)
    • Front Firing, dual 15" sealed subwoofer (optional side amplifier locations available on black oak and black maple units - standard rear amplifier only)
    • SpeakON connection to SubMersive F2+/F2i+ amplifier only
    • SpeakON 4 conductor cable sold separately in build-to-order lengths by Seaton Sound or available to order here at Markertek.
    • $1395 each + shipping and veneer premiums (lead time and premiums the same as F2+ above)
  • SubMersive HPi+ & F2i+ Options - (same availability as HP+/F2+)
    • $400 premium for any HP+ or F2+ model
    • HPi+ - $2,795 USD + shipping and applicable taxes in black oak or black maple
    • F2i+ - $2,995 USD + shipping and applicable taxes in black oak or black maple
    • Same veneer premium charges as HP+/F2+ models

  • Internally tri-amplified (1,000W-700W-300W) loudspeaker
  • 115V/230V selectable, appropriate PowerCon power cord for destination address is included.
  • Updated 8" coaxial midrange w/ 1" HF driver - Shared Neodymium Magnet
  • dual 12" sealed woofer
  • Intended operating range: 50-20,000 Hz
  • 38" H x 16" W x 14" D (Link to PDF)
  • $3,895 each + shipping
  • Weight: 116 lbs
  • Packed for shipping: 21" W x 19" D x 44" H, 132 lbs
  • Premium veneer options -
    • Black Oak finish - standard price (3 weeks)
    • Black Maple finish - standard price (3 weeks)
    • Maple veneer + $200 (3 weeks)
    • Espresso stained cherry veneer + $300 (3 weeks)
    • Red stained cherry veneer + $300 (3 weeks)
    • Vintage cherry veneer + $300 (3 weeks)
    • Rosenut (red stained walnut veneer) +$300 (3 weeks)
  • Catalyst 8C Powered Loudspeaker (ships within 1-5 weeks)
    • Internally tri-amplified (500W-350W-150W) loudspeaker
    • 115V/230V selectable, appropriate PowerCon power cord for destination address is included.
    • Updated 8" coaxial midrange w/ 1" HF driver - Shared Neodymium Magnet
    • dual 8" sealed woofer
    • Intended operating range: 65-20,000 Hz
    • 28" H x 11" W x 11.75" D
    • $2,895 each + shipping
    • Weight: 66 lbs 
    • Packed for shipping: 16" W x 16" D x 36" H, 78 lbs
    • Premium veneer options -
      • Black Oak finish (In Stock)*
      • Black Maple finish (3 weeks)
      • Maple veneer + $100 (3 weeks)
      • Red, Espresso, Vintage and Golden stained cherry wood veneer +$200 (In Stock)*
      • Rosenut $200 (3 weeks)
  • Spark Powered Loudspeaker (Currently NOT available for order - Redesign in progress, dimensions and pricing subject to change)
    • Internally Bi-amplified (160W-140W) loudspeaker 
    • Universal Voltage operation (no switching needed), appropriate PowerCon power cord for destination address is included.
    • 8" coaxial midrange w/Neodymium magnet 1" HF driver
    • Compact 2 way bass reflex using 8" passive radiator
    • Intended operating range: 70-20,000 Hz

Hopefully this will provide a little added clarity and make for a quick reference to see where things are at or provide direct links to further information on products.

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Bump!  Added dimensions for the Catalyst and Spark in the post above.

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Mark did the current catalyst get a 50W boost in amplification for the compression tweeter? I believe mine are 250w and your latest spec is 300w, hey you owe me 50watts


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Mark must be falling into the industry standard practice of overstating of power specs

Just kidding of course....  I'm sure as implemented the ICE modules are delivering the said power levels.


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Mark did the current catalyst get a 50W boost in amplification for the compression tweeter? I believe mine are 250w and your latest spec is 300w, hey you owe me 50watts



Specs' for each power amp section is a rather gray area for any amplifier.  If I just went by the nameplate specs for the ICEpower modules used it would be more generous.  The Catalyst's amplifier has 2 1000W modules and a 500W module for the tweeter.  Those ratings are for nominal 4 Ohms.  Of course we aren't rating what the amplifier can deliver into one or two different loads that someone might connect to the amplifier.  This is a closed system, where the power I specified above correlates pretty well to the useful Voltage available into the load of the drivers.  In the end, 300W vs. 250W is less than 0.8dB of headroom difference.  Power output for most any amplifier will vary greatly just in simple changes of distortion thresholds.  I focus on SPL output, as that's all that really matters in this case, and the listed power ratings align pretty well with the measurements I have taken.

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Mark did the current catalyst get a 50W boost in amplification for the compression tweeter? I believe mine are 250w and your latest spec is 300w, hey you owe me 50watts



Specs' for each power amp section is a rather gray area for any amplifier.  If I just went by the nameplate specs for the ICEpower modules used it would be more generous.  The Catalyst's amplifier has 2 1000W modules and a 500W module for the tweeter.  Those ratings are for nominal 4 Ohms.  Of course we aren't rating what the amplifier can deliver into one or two different loads that someone might connect to the amplifier.  This is a closed system, where the power I specified above correlates pretty well to the useful Voltage available into the load of the drivers.  In the end, 300W vs. 250W is less than 0.8dB of headroom difference.  Power output for most any amplifier will vary greatly just in simple changes of distortion thresholds.  I focus on SPL output, as that's all that really matters in this case, and the listed power ratings align pretty well with the measurements I have taken.


You know...those were my very thoughts exactly

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Mark did the current catalyst get a 50W boost in amplification for the compression tweeter? I believe mine are 250w and your latest spec is 300w, hey you owe me 50watts

Yeah, your room isn't very loud.


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Mark did the current catalyst get a 50W boost in amplification for the compression tweeter? I believe mine are 250w and your latest spec is 300w, hey you owe me 50watts



Specs' for each power amp section is a rather gray area for any amplifier.  If I just went by the nameplate specs for the ICEpower modules used it would be more generous.  The Catalyst's amplifier has 2 1000W modules and a 500W module for the tweeter.  Those ratings are for nominal 4 Ohms.  Of course we aren't rating what the amplifier can deliver into one or two different loads that someone might connect to the amplifier.  This is a closed system, where the power I specified above correlates pretty well to the useful Voltage available into the load of the drivers.  In the end, 300W vs. 250W is less than 0.8dB of headroom difference.  Power output for most any amplifier will vary greatly just in simple changes of distortion thresholds.  I focus on SPL output, as that's all that really matters in this case, and the listed power ratings align pretty well with the measurements I have taken.


You know...those were my very thoughts exactly


LOL, you asked a simple yes or no question "did the amp change?" and Mark offers a lengthy response that does not provide a yes or a no!  I think the man has a future in politics!

You could interpret the response as "yes there was a change but it does not make any real difference" or "no there was no change, not that it would have mattered, but the exact specs are a grey area and I am simply reporting a revised number that more closely resembles the measured data"
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Mark did the current catalyst get a 50W boost in amplification for the compression tweeter? I believe mine are 250w and your latest spec is 300w, hey you owe me 50watts



Specs' for each power amp section is a rather gray area for any amplifier.  If I just went by the nameplate specs for the ICEpower modules used it would be more generous.  The Catalyst's amplifier has 2 1000W modules and a 500W module for the tweeter.  Those ratings are for nominal 4 Ohms.  Of course we aren't rating what the amplifier can deliver into one or two different loads that someone might connect to the amplifier.  This is a closed system, where the power I specified above correlates pretty well to the useful Voltage available into the load of the drivers.  In the end, 300W vs. 250W is less than 0.8dB of headroom difference.  Power output for most any amplifier will vary greatly just in simple changes of distortion thresholds.  I focus on SPL output, as that's all that really matters in this case, and the listed power ratings align pretty well with the measurements I have taken.


You know...those were my very thoughts exactly


LOL, you asked a simple yes or no question "did the amp change?" and Mark offers a lengthy response that does not provide a yes or a no!  I think the man has a future in politics!

You could interpret the response as "yes there was a change but it does not make any real difference" or "no there was no change, not that it would have mattered, but the exact specs are a grey area and I am simply reporting a revised number that more closely resembles the measured data"


Good point.

I was planning on posting the quick 'n dirty translation of the HTMarine's question and the answer:
Q: "Hey Mark, is this a shiny new amplifier upgrade, and if so how do I get it?!?"

A:  "Nope, same amplifier, revised specs.  You were upgraded as soon as I posted it! "

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I have seen that several have asked what is the weight of each of your products - I would also like to know.
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I have seen that several have asked what is the weight of each of your products - I would also like to know.
Carl


Hi Carl,

I will do some double checking for more precise numbers this coming week, but the SubMersive is about 120 lbs net, with a 132 lbs shipping weight.  The Catalyst is about 115 lbs net, with a 125 lbs shipping weight.  The Spark just got put on some weight gainer with the final box design, so I'll have to wait for the first boxes to be sure.

Do keep in mind that the amplifiers I use are extremely light weight.  The Spark's amplifier is a feather weight 2.5 lbs, the SubMersive's amplifier only 7 lbs, and the 3 channel amplifier for the Catalyst still only 10 lbs.

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Minor updates made to the list with lead times and some early info on one form factor of the Terraform XL.

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Progress update on the inbound SubMersive parts.  I will have firm dates for the required parts to arrive by Wednesday next week (13th) after which I can again provide accurate lead times.

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Good news.

We are pretty well set for a certain availability by the end of June for SubMersives, and my supplier is working hard to get parts on hand for some openings in the production schedule which could make SubMersives available 1-3 weeks earlier! 

Translation:  Worst case shipping dates for new SubMersive orders will be the week of June 29th, with the possibility of shipments as soon as the 8th or 15th, making for a 3-6 week lead time.

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Yet another update to the update...

We'll be shipping SubMersives by June 15th, and we are targeting a maintained 1-3 week lead time for orders placed after that date.  SubMersives will be delivered in the order in which payment is received, and the line has already started forming.

Most all orders received before May 27th should be shipped the week of June 15th, after that delivery will depend on the size of the backlog varying from 1-3 weeks.


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Are the prices of stands included in the price of Catalysts and/or Sparks?

Do you in fact still make stands for these products?

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Are the prices of stands included in the price of Catalysts and/or Sparks?

Do you in fact still make stands for these products?

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Hi kirby',

Stands are additional, and are built to order so we can adjust height as needed.  20-24" tall stands put the center/tweeter of the Catalyst at 39-43" in height, which works pretty well for many flat floored rooms.  Once you start factoring in risers and rows of seating, things can vary much more, where often I recommend also considering screen image height with acoustically transparent screens.

I can make stands for the Catalyst and Spark, and of course there are companies offering premium custom stands like Sound Anchor.  I'll take another look at some example pricing for 2-3 stands types for Catalysts and Sparks, but for Sparks I would recommend also checking into some more commonly available stand options (probably 28-32" for the Spark).

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Hello Mark,

As stated in my e-mail just then, I would be very interested in a Submersive. Being aware of the order deadline 27 May, could you please check your e-mails and respond when you have time? That would be great.

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Quick updates:

SubMersive lead times should keep to approximately 3 weeks for the near future with hopes of shortening that in the future.

With so many orders coming in and some delays on a few final parts, I will start shipping Sparks on order within the next week.  With the upcoming meets in Michigan on June 14th and N California on July 11th, I have decided to extend the introductory pricing on the Sparks through July 20th, giving more a chance to hear them in person before the introductory pricing ends.

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Fantastic news, Mark!  I'm dying to get in the que.  

I know you have many irons in the fire, so I'm patiently waiting to get my order in...   Today would be sweet!!! 
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