audioguy
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WOW. I though it was a steal for $300 !!!
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hifiaudio2
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I was completely unaware of the need to adjust Audyssey after the fact. I will have to check into that... I have XTZ but wouldnt mind addint Omni, especially if it has features XTZ lacks.
If your measurements tell you that Audyssey is not integrating the mains correctly, though, what adjustments do you go about changing? Or is that affected by the same sub distance setting?
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gpburns
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audioguy
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I called them and apparently the software is downward compatible BUT my original mic is not upgradable (they changed manufacturers). (All of this according to the guy I spoke to who was not particularly sharp !).
Anyone know anything different?
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audioguy
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Quote: Originally Posted by hifiaudio2
If your measurements tell you that Audyssey is not integrating the mains correctly, though, what adjustments do you go about changing? Or is that affected by the same sub distance setting?
Adjust sub distance. Try changing the distance by fairly small amounts (maybe 1 foot) in both directions and then you can tell which direction makes the correct difference. The keep playing with it (adjusting the distances in even smaller amounts) until you get the smoothest curve possible. I end up adjusting mine about 2 to 3 feet but that is not a hard and fast situation. All depends on the room and where your subs are.
Works like a champ!!
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audioguy
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I could not find anywhere on the Dayton website to download the new software. Anyone have any success?
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FOH
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Quote: Originally Posted by audioguy
I could not find anywhere on the Dayton website to download the new software. Anyone have any success?
Typically, I've downloaded each revision from the Parts Express OmniMic page,... but I no longer see it there. It is available right in the middle of the Dayton OmniMic page...
http://www.daytonaudio.com/index.php/omnimic-v2-precision-measurement-system.html
Each subsequent refinement/revision has been nice. It's not got the look, feel and overall appeal that the ubiquitous REW has, however the quick loading, portability, and user friendly interface is helpful and so attractive to many enthusiasts just getting into measurments,...or simply adding this to their tool kit. Bill Waslo, the guy behind the software, continues to add more features. And Dayton, seeing potential issues, changed manufactures and will re calibrate each existing mic free of charge, as long as you ship the old mic back,....they thoroughly go through each one and check everything out.
I like the continued support, and I see no reason to believe it wouldn't continue to be refined more and more.
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ShinySteelRobot
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Quote: Originally Posted by gpburnsThis would be an amazing product to bundle with high end subwoofers. Would save a lot of time and effort in setup
Actually, rather than including a $300 mic with each sub (and passing the cost along), it might be better if Seaton Sound had had mic they could lend to users, say, a week a time.
One of the BMW forums does something similar. They have a couple of copies of the Europe navigation DVD that slots into BMW navigation systems. If you do European Delivery of your BMW (i.e., pick it up in Munich), you can request to borrow the Euro Nav DVD while you're in Europe. The forum admin mails you the DVD in advance. That way you don't have to buy the $200 Euro Nav DVD just to use it for two weeks, then never use it again. When you're done you mail the DVD back to the forum admin. It's a great system.
FWIW, if I owned a Dayton mic, I'd probably use it for a day to get the system dialed in, and then throw it in a box for a couple of years.
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Mark_Seaton
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Quote: Originally Posted by ShinySteelRobotQuote: Originally Posted by gpburnsThis would be an amazing product to bundle with high end subwoofers. Would save a lot of time and effort in setup
Actually, rather than including a $300 mic with each sub (and passing the cost along), it might be better if Seaton Sound had had mic they could lend to users, say, a week a time.
One of the BMW forums does something similar. They have a couple of copies of the Europe navigation DVD that slots into BMW navigation systems. If you do European Delivery of your BMW (i.e., pick it up in Munich), you can request to borrow the Euro Nav DVD while you're in Europe. The forum admin mails you the DVD in advance. That way you don't have to buy the $200 Euro Nav DVD just to use it for two weeks, then never use it again. When you're done you mail the DVD back to the forum admin. It's a great system.
FWIW, if I owned a Dayton mic, I'd probably use it for a day to get the system dialed in, and then throw it in a box for a couple of years.
This is in fact something I've given some thought to. I honestly need to spend some more time with the OmniMic and software to be more familiar with it and confident in its operation before taking that step. I could envision 2 options which would make sense to different Seaton Sound owners, and only be available to owners. One option would be a reduced price on the OmniMic for those who have purchased multiple Seaton Sound products of some form, as well as 2-3 traveling kits which customers could put a deposit down which would be refunded less the shipping and some fee for the use or time it is kept.
I'll have to do some more looking at likely shipping costs and some more detailed playing with the system. Already having different 4 measurement systems around have kept it from being a pressing necessity.
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Mvo
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I just got my new submersive hp yesterday and so far so good. It looks and sounds great, thanks Mark!  I also picked up the Omni mic v2 kit. Here are some of the graphs I took with it. Any advice on what I could do to improve the frequency response. Tried adjusting the subwoofer distance but it could only do so much.  Moved the sub in different locations and found the front left corner to work best.
All three graphs include mains and sub together:
The top is with Dynamic Eq 1/12th smoothing
The Middle is without Dynamic EQ 1/12th smoothing
The bottom MultiEq XT off 1/12th smoothing
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FOH
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Mvo,
The extension to below 10hz looks good,...however if you could adjust the horizontal scale, so that we examine the range below 200hz, it would allow better dissemination of what's going on. The vertical scale is ok,...typically, 45-105db is used, and 10hz-200hz. This standardization allows a more consistent comparison graph to graph.
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Mvo
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Quote: Originally Posted by FOH
Mvo,
The extension to below 10hz looks good,...however if you could adjust the horizontal scale, so that we examine the range below 200hz, it would allow better dissemination of what's going on. The vertical scale is ok,...typically, 45-105db is used, and 10hz-200hz. This standardization allows a more consistent comparison graph to graph.
Good luck
Here are the graphs:
MultiEQ XT off
No Dynamic EQ
With Dynamic EQ
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Mvo
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Just received my second Submersive HP, though I thought Auddyssey would give me a flatter response. It does sound good.
1/24th smoothing Multieqoff
1/24th smoothing No Dymanic EQ
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